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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: War exploits with strong Scottish connections? Reply with quote

I was musing about what significant war developments or innovations might have strong Scottish links and I came up with a few (just showing my ignorance here)

Ammunition factory Dornock/Eastriggs/Gretna/Longtown
European base of ferry command at Prestwick (first regular transatlantic crossings)
Building of Mulberry harbours in Garlieston
Shetland Bus
Churchill Barriers, Orkney
development of metal detectors
Carronade

Not thinking of disasters like Quintinshill, more of achievements.

I'm sure there must be some others, can anyone help me make a list?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would the Churchhill Barriers fit in your list?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how did I not know about the churchill barriers before (I said I would show my ignorance)..............easily found info in google and definately on the list, thanks

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lee-Enfield rifle.

James Paris Lee was born in Hawick.
Without him giving the Old Contemptibles a class rifle, the Germans may have succeeded in conquering Europe in 1914. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without wanting to start a barney - how about FM Douglas Haig?

Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The development of radar by Robert Watson-Watt?

He was from Brechin.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roxy wrote:
Without wanting to start a barney - how about FM Douglas Haig?

Talk about dropping a hand grenade into a conversation. Confused

Spoon is asking for significant Scottish war developments or innovations.
Haig developed but was he innovative?

I'll toss that particular grenade back into the room. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All great achievements by Scots but it wasn't quite what I was looking for. I was looking for developments or innovations that took place largely in Scotland. Not sure where the Lee Enfield rifle was developed but I would guess Woolwich, Radar was mostly developed in Kent with some work at RAE in Surrey and as for Haig......... I will say no more than agreeing he was famous.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The metal detectors used as mine detectors were developed by the Polish army in Scotland during the second world war.

http://www.detectordude.com/Joomlavm/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26&Itemid=40
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one, metal detectors added to list

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the Carronade? Developed in Falkirk.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the Anderson Shelter, initiated by Edinburgh born John Anderson, 1st Viscount Waverley. In 1939 on the run-up to the war, he was Lord Privy Seal, and was put in charge of air raid preparations.

The shelters were available free of charge to those earning less than £250 a year, or sold for £7 to those earning more (according to Wikipedia, so it must be true).

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anderson shelter was initiated as you said but engineered by William Paterson and Oscar Carl (Karl) Kerrison - any info that they did this in Scotland?

Carronade is a good un

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Percussion Lock Reply with quote

The person credited with inventing the percussion system for discharging a firearm was the Rev. Alexander John Forsyth, LL.D., for fifty-two years minister of Belhelvie, Aberdeenshire. He invented the Percussion Lock which led to the end of flints, damp powder and flash delay and eventually led to the LE .303 which Derek R mentioned.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ardeer Factory of Imperial Chemical Industries Limited, Nobel Division.

Ardeer was the place where tnt was produced for the war.

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