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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject: Alice Docherty Smith, A.T.S. Reply with quote

Alice Docherty Smith died in 1949 and so is outwith the scope for commemoration by CWGC.
You have to wonder why she is on the memorial if her service was during WW2. Maybe the cause of death would clarify further.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: Glyn Ritchie Reply with quote

Glyn Ritchie is listed on the WW2 panel of the Milngavie memorial.

Woops! My mistake. The only Glyn I know is a woman, so Mr Ritchie was known by a middle name and not his forname.

Sorry folks Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Her"?????
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From The Herald

"Fighters could not engage the enemy during Clydebank Blitz



I am bemused by Frank Gallagher’s solution to the defence of Clydebank during the Blitz of 1941 (Letters, September 7). He confesses to having an interest in Spitfires yet this aircraft was a day fighter; the Clydebank Blitz was at night.

The problems of operating the early Spitfires at night are well known. The glare from the exhaust stubs destroyed the pilot’s night vision.

Nevertheless, if he had looked up a bit higher he would have seen Spitfires of 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron based at Prestwick and recently returned from highly successful operations in the Battle of Britain. Bristol Blenheim night fighters from 600 Squadron were also deployed.

The problem at Clydebank was the employment of a strategy known as “Fighter Night”, which created a buffer zone between the anti-aircraft guns and friendly aircraft.

Intercepting aircraft were given specific heights and ordered not to deviate . The Luftwaffe came through in the buffer zone. Had someone talked?

The pilots of 602 Squadron could only watch in frustration as Clydebank was destroyed.

Imagine being Squadron Leader Sandy Johnstone, looking down on the carnage from 22,000ft, knowing his family was in Kelvinside, or Flight Lieutenant Glyn Ritchie, whose family was in Milngavie.

Glyn Ritchie subsequently made the supreme sacrifice four months later.

P G Traynor, 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron RAuxAF Museum, 518 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow. "

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/comment/herald-letters/letters-thursday-9-september-2010-1.1053807
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cannot find her on SNWM or CWGC.


Not a female. Can you edit / correct the Women on memorials entries?

Name: RITCHIE, THOMAS GLYN FINLAYSON
Initials: T G F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Flight Lieutenant (Pilot)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 602 Sqdn.
Date of Death: 21/07/1941
Service No: 73010
Additional information: Son of Thomas McGown Ritchie and Jane Finlayson Ritchie, of Milngavie, Dunbartonshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 5A.
Cemetery: RENINGHELST CHURCHYARD EXTENSION
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:30 pm    Post subject: Janet T. Johnston Reply with quote

On Kirkpatrick WW2 names is Janet T. Johnston of the N.A.A.F.I.

Unable to find her on CWGC or SNWM.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Jeanie T. Wright Reply with quote

On Dalbeatie memorial is Jeanie T. Wright of the W.A.A.C.

CWGC
Name: WRIGHT, JEANNIE TURNBULL
Initials: J T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Worker
Regiment/Service: Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps
Age: 20
Date of Death: 29/10/1918
Service No: 46868
Additional information: Daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Wright, of The Galla, Dalbeattie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 4A. 1st Extn. 23.
Cemetery: DALBEATTIE CEMETERY

SNWM
unlisted

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Helen A. McQuaker Reply with quote

On Buittle WW2 memorial is W.R.E.N.Helen A. McQuaker.

CWGC
Name: McQUAKER, HELEN ADAIR
Initials: H A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Wren
Regiment/Service: Women's Royal Naval Service
Unit Text: H.M.S. Cochrane II.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 31/12/1945
Service No: 78304
Additional information: Daughter of James A. McQuaker and Janet McQuaker, of Dalbeattie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. B. Grave 20.
Cemetery: BUITTLE CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: McQUAKER
Firstname: Helen Adair
Service number: R/WRNS78304
Date of death: 31/12/1945
Place of birth: Dumfries
SNWM roll: ROYAL NAVY AND ROYAL MARINES
Rank: Cook(S)
Theatre of death: W.R.N.S. H.M.S. Cochrane II. Dalbeattie.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JEANIE T WRIGHT, WAAC.
Jeanie Turnbull Wright, Worker (46868) Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps. Age 20.
Born 1898 at ? Daughter of the late George Turnbull and Wilhelmina Turnbull (latterly Wright). Step daughter of Andrew Wright of The Galla, Dalbeattie.
A former pupil of Dalbeattie Higher Grade Public School.
Died 29 October 1918 of influenza at Perth Royal Infirmary. Buried in Dalbeattie Cemetery. Also remembered on the Memorial in Perth Congregational Church.

WREN HELEN A. McQUAKER, WRNS
Helen Adair McQuaker, Wren (78304) HMS Cochrane II, Women's Royal Naval Service. Age 19.
Born 1926 at Dumfries. Daughter of James and Janet McQuaker of Douganhill, Palnackie, Buittle.
Died at home 31 December 1945 of Tuberculosis, buried in Buittle Cemetery (CWG)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:38 pm    Post subject: Jemima Wilson Reply with quote

On Moniaive and Wallacetown Village Hall memorials is Jemima Wilson.

CWGC
Name: WILSON, JEMIMA
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Member
Regiment/Service: Queen Mary's Army Auxiliary Corps
Unit Text: Gateshead Hostel
Age: 24
Date of Death: 02/12/1917
Service No: 3812
Additional information: Daughter of James and Margaret Wilson, of Ingleston Cottage, Moniaive, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Q. U. 364.
Cemetery: NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (ST. ANDREW'S AND JESMOND) CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: WILSON
Firstname: Jemima
Service Number: 3812
Date Death: 02/12/1917
Place of birth: Dumfries
Other: e. London.
SNWM roll: WOMEN'S SERVICES.
Rank: Worker
Theatre of death: Home.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Ethel C. Salmond Reply with quote

On Creetown memorial for WW2 is Ethel C. Salmond of the W.A.A.F.

CWGC
Name: SALMOND, ETHEL
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftwoman 2nd Class
Regiment/Service: Women's Auxiliary Air Force
Age: 29
Date of Death: 21/07/1944
Service No: 2117952
Additional information: Daughter of George and Ethel Salmond, of Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. R. Grave 835.
Cemetery: NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (WEST ROAD) CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: SALMOND
Firstname: Ethel
Service number: 2117952
Date of death: 21/07/1944
Place of birth: Dundee
SNWM roll: ROYAL AIR FORCE and DOMINION AIR FORCES
Rank: A C W 2
Theatre of death: W.A.A.F. A.D.G.B.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: T.O. Milne Home, I - M.W.R.N.S. Reply with quote

After my last faux pas I thought I'd run this past folk first!

On Langholm WW2 is listed T.O. Milne Home, I. M.W.R.N.S.

I think this is a female casualty but I haven't been able to identify them on CWGC.

I'm don't know what the rank T.O. stands for. I thought it said W.R.N.S. but I think the M is before it and not part of their name, making it M.W.R.N.S.

Anyone able to clear this up?

now Cleared up!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Isabella Oliver Reply with quote

On Lockerbie WW2 is Isabella Oliver

CGWC
Name: OLIVER, ISABELLA McROBERT
Initials: I M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Auxiliary Territorial Service
Age: 19
Date of Death: 28/05/1944
Service No: W/76105
Additional information: Daughter of William Scott Oliver and Esther Smith Oliver, of Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 6.
Cemetery: STOW CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: OLIVER
Firstname: Isabella McR
Service number: 76105
Date of death: 29/05/1944
Place of birth: Dumfriesshire
SNWM roll: WOMEN'S SERVICES
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: United Kingdom

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Isabella Oliver Reply with quote

On Lockerbie WW2 is Isabella Oliver

CGWC
Name: OLIVER, ISABELLA McROBERT
Initials: I M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Auxiliary Territorial Service
Age: 19
Date of Death: 28/05/1944
Service No: W/76105
Additional information: Daughter of William Scott Oliver and Esther Smith Oliver, of Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 6.
Cemetery: STOW CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: OLIVER
Firstname: Isabella McR
Service number: 76105
Date of death: 29/05/1944
Place of birth: Dumfriesshire
SNWM roll: WOMEN'S SERVICES
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: United Kingdom

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Eleanor Teresa Pearson Armstrong Reply with quote

On Canonbie is Miss Eleanor Teresa Pearson Armstrong of the British Diplomatic staff.

CWGC
Name: ARMSTRONG, ELEANOR TERESA
Initials: E T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 30
Date of Death: 12/03/1941
Additional information: Daughter of Margaret Armstrong, of 24 Scotland Road, Carlisle, Cumberland, and of the late John Armstrong. Died at Pera Palace Hotel, Istanbul.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: TURKEY

SNWM
unlisted

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