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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Scottish National War Memorial Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
Mod Edit:Adam: Jim Grant has kindly provided the UKNIWM details and I have added them here at the start of this thread

SCOTTISH NATIONAL WAR MEMORIAL
UKNIWM Ref: 2002


Address
EDINBURGH CASTLE
EDINBURGH
LOTHIAN
SCOTLAND
EH1 2YT

Type: OTHER STRUCTURE
Other Location Details: WITHIN THE CASTLE, NORTH SIDE OF CROWN SQUARE

OS Map Ref: NT 250 720



Physical Description
LARGE STONE BUILDING FEATURING A LONG HALL OF HONOUR AND A SHRINE. ALSO INCLUDES A BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE FOR THE SCOTTISH WHO FELL IN THE TWO WORLD WARS.

MOUNTED ON THE HALL OF HONOUR WALLS ARE MEMORIALS TO THE CAMERON HIGHLANDERS, ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS, FLYING SERVICES, HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY, SCOTTISH RIFLES, ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS, SCOTS GUARDS, ROYAL SCOTS, KINGS OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS, BLACK WATCH, SEAFORTHS, ROYAL NAVY, GORDONS, SCOTS GREYS, ROYAL MARINES, BRITISH DOMINIONS AND COLONIES, MERCANTILE MARINE AND ALL SCOTSWOMEN, INDIAN ARMY, NURSING SERVICES, PADRES, 1939-45 AND POST-45 CASUALTIES, TREE OF EMPIRE, ROYAL ARTILLERY, HOUSEHOLD CAVALRY, RAMC, RASC, ROYAL ENGINEERS AND THE SCOTTISH YEOMANRY, LONDON LIVERPOOL AND SOUTH AFRICAN SCOTTISH AND THE TYNESIDE SCOTTISH PLAQUES, AND THE ENGLISH IRISH AND WELSH.






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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some images of the frieze in the shrine











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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some images of details on the outside walls:








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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A plan of the memorial and the old barracks that stood on the site before the memorial was built. This and the other images I posted yesterday are from a Country Life suplement I have photographed. I will post more of it when I get a chance to edit and download the photos.



This is the front page from a Sunday Post supplement of 1928 and another showing some of the animals carvings. Note the Regimental Colours in the Sunday Post supplement of the view of the Hall of Honour looking West. This dates the photo to after the opening ceremony. Corinne's image of the postcard showing the same view does not show the Colours and must be official shots taken before the opening ceremony. The Country Life supplement also shows the Colours.





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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are two photos of the Women's memorials from the Country Life supplement. Corinne has already posted the postcard versions of these memorials. They are very similar but then I suppose they would be. They aren't the same original photographs though





I take it Corinne's images are from a set of official photos used by the SNWM on it's postcards which were sold in the 1920s and '30s for revenue. You'll find a least one of these images in any box of old postcards in any bric-a-brac shop (sorry antique dealers) worth its salt these days. The ones I'm posting were taken at a slightly later date and used by the newspapers and magazines. I wonder if the SNWM supplied them or if the newspapers were allowed to take their own?

I take it the SNWM periodically takes new images of the Hall and memorials for the postcards it sells at the Memorial.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Front Entrance Porch. I really should have my own photo of this view! Note how pristine all the stonework looks.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here over the next few posts is the text from the Country Life supplement. It's not to my taste but it is 80 years old. The first half of the supplement is Sir Lawrence Weaver's text and the second half is the photographs.





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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote







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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've dug out my 1931 copy of Ian Hay's book about the SNWM Their Name Liveth. Hay uses the same images as the Country Life Supplement and credits the copyright to Francis Caird Inglis, 'Photgrapher to His majesty the King at Edinburgh'.
F.C, Inglis died in 1940 so if I'm correct the copyright for these images expired in 1990. That mean it's OK to post them here.

Here are some photos of the Shrine which holds the casket with the names.













Angels on the outside of the Shrine



I've never noticed these carvings of the planets before. You can see them in the background of the photo of St Michael above. I've always been too busy looking at the bronze frieze.



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some more images from outside. Apologies for the distortion in one of these photos. Hopefully we'll soon get a more up to date one which looks right!








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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some shots of the windows which in no way can do them any sort of justice. I'm afraid the online tour on the Official SNWM website doesn't show them in great detail either.







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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Remember also the Humble Beasts that served and died".

These carvings sum up the amount of thought which went into this magnificent memorial. No person, or animal, which served in the war was overlooked. Each one had played their part in the victory and deserved an honoured place here.





You can see the horse, dog and camel carvings on an earlier post from a different supplement.

All these carvings are at the top of pillars within the hall. The next one is at the base of a pillar for obvious reasons.



This is probably the best place for the next image as well. This carving is above the main doorway. The Pelican of the Wilderness is symbolic. Suposedly in times of hardship a mother pelican will feed her young with her own blood by piercing her chest with her beak.



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some shots of the Hall of Honour. Note the Battle Honours incribed along the top of the walls. A detail easy to miss when you are actually in the memorial.





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