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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Pte. William Neill Reply with quote

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Name: NEILL, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regiment)
Unit Text: 21st Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: between 03/11/1917 and 04/11/1917
Service No: 675255
Additional information: Son of the late William and Janet Neill, of Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland. His brothers James Vance Neill and Andrew Cloakie Neill also fell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. CC. 9.
Cemetery: TYNE COT CEMETERY

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Pte. Andrew Neill Reply with quote

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Name: NEILL, ANDREW CLOAKIE
Initials: A C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: "C" Coy. 12th Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 25/04/1918
Service No: 43346
Awards: M M
Additional information: Son of the late William and Janet Neill. His brothers James Vance Neill and William Neill also fell.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 11 to 14 and 162.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: NEILL
Firstname: Andrew
Service Number: 43346
Date Death: 25/04/1918
Decoration: M.M. (Military Medal)
Place of birth: Mochrum Wigtownshire
Other: 12th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: Pte. John Maxwell Reply with quote

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Name: MAXWELL
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 13/11/1917
Service No: 23048
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Maxwell, of Killantrae, Port William, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: O. 30.
Cemetery: RAMLEH WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: MAXWELL
Firstname: John
Service Number: 23048
Date Death: 13/11/1917
Place of birth: Sorbie Wigtown
Other: 1/5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:02 am    Post subject: Pte. David Jamieson Reply with quote

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Name: JAMESON (Jamieson?)
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: The King's (Liverpool Regiment)
Unit Text: 13th Bn.
Date of Death: 08/02/1918
Service No: 42866
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. J. 14.
Cemetery: BUCQUOY ROAD CEMETERY, FICHEUX

SNWM
Surname: JAMIESON
Firstname: David
Service Number: 42866
Date Death: 08/02/1918
Place of birth: Mochrum Wigtown
Other: 13th Bn.
SNWM roll: SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Pte. John Marshall Reply with quote

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Name: MARSHALL
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 7th/8th Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 23/03/1918
Service No: 41134
Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth Marshall, of Elrig Village, Port William, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. C. 12.
Cemetery: FAUBOURG D'AMIENS CEMETERY, ARRASohn

SNWM
Surname: MARSHALL
Firstname: John
Service Number: 41134
Date Death: 23/03/1918
Place of birth: Mochrum Wigtown
Other: 7/8th Bn. formerly 16685, 56th T.R.
SNWM roll: THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Pte. Charles Street M.M. Reply with quote

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Name: STEWART
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 29/09/1918
Service No: S/22224
Awards: M M
Additional information: Son of Robert and Christina Stewart, of Killantrae, Port William, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 30.
Cemetery: HARINGHE (BANDAGHEM) MILITARY CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: STEWART
Firstname: Charles
Service Number: S/22224
Date Death: 29/09/1918
Decoration: M.M.
Place of birth: Mauchline Ayrshire
Other: 5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Pte. James McNeil Reply with quote

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Name: McNEIL
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 16th Bn.
Date of Death: 03/07/1917
Service No: 42234
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Nieuport Mil. Cem. Mem. 20.
Cemetery: RAMSCAPPELLE ROAD MILITARY CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: McNEIL
Firstname: James
Service Number: 42234
Date Death: 03/07/1917
Place of birth: Port William Wigtownshire
Other: 16th Bn. formerly 4488 K.O.S.B.
SNWM roll: THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:56 pm    Post subject: Pte. Peter Milhench Reply with quote

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Name: MILHENCH, PETER
Initials: P
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Saskatchewan Regiment)
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 29/09/1918
Service No: 257488
Additional information: Son of Robert and Jane Milhench, of Mochrum, Port William. Wigtownshire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 10.
Cemetery: HAYNECOURT BRITISH CEMETERY

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: Pte. William MacDonald Grier Reply with quote

possibly

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Name: GRIER, WILLIAM MACDONALD
Initials: W M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 2nd/10th Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 27/10/1918
Service No: 50505
Additional information: Son of William and Elizabeth Grier; husband of Margaret Grier, of 142, Queensberry St., Dumfries.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: ARCHANGEL MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: GRIER
Firstname: William MacDonald
Service Number: 50505
Date Death: 27/10/1918
Other: 2/10th Bn. formerly 24614 K.O. Sco. Borderers.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:18 am    Post subject: J.D. Nish Reply with quote

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Name: NISH, JAMES HOOPER DAWSON
Initials: J H D
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment)
Unit Text: 27th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 16/09/1916
Service No: 71201
Additional information: Son of Robert MacKenzie Nish and Jamima Hooper Dawson Nish. Born in Wigtownshire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. O. 52.
Cemetery: ALBERT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Pte. William James Heron Reply with quote

Also listed on the Glasgow Police memorial.

(Glasgow Herald 28th May 1915)
"Mrs Heron, High Street, Port William, has received intimation that her only son, Private William Heron, was killed in action in France, at the endof last week. Previous to the outbreak of war Private Heron was a member of the Glasgow Constabulary, and he joined the Scots Guards at the beginning of hostilities."

spoons wrote:
A mail I got from Bill Heron (who I met in B&Q in Ayr) concerning 2 names on this memorial (one his namesake).

Name: HERON, WILLIAM JAMES
Initials: W J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 16/05/1915
Service No: 11933
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Margaret Heron, of High St., Port William, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 3 and 4.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL

Above should be the details of William Heron who appears on the Portwilliam memorial. He was born on 20th January 1888 to James Heron and Margaret McKie, the family lived at Near Fell Cothouse, Glasserton until his father died on 13th November 1890. His mother must have taken the family to Portwilliam where she lived until her death on 19th August 1927 at High Street Portwilliam. William James although single had a daughter Jamesina Heron born 5th July 1901 but died on 17th April 1902, he was my Grandmother's 2nd cousin.

the second person I have detail of is James Black who also appears on the Portwilliam memorial. He was born on 10th February 1889 at Portwilliam to Alexander Black and Jane Heron. He was a Coachman to Sir Herbert Maxwell of Monreith before enlisting at Kingston on Thames. James was a single person and my Grandfather's step brother.

Casualty: Private JAMES BLACK, S/21503
Served with: 6th Bn. Cameron Highlanders
Died: 24th April 1917
Commemorated: ARRAS MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Galloway Gazette (28 August 1915) carried a photograph of William McQuaid, and reported: Private McQuaid was wounded in the fighting on the 12th July at the Dardanelles, and died in hospital on the 21st of his wounds. Before the war he was employed on Monreith estate. He leaves a widow and young child.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Peter M. Barr, Outram, Milhench & Kevan Reply with quote

DelBoy wrote:
I'm not sure about Peter M. Barr on this memorial, it's not clear to me what service he belongs. Is it the R.N.R. or is he a Gunner? There are few Peter Barr's on CWGC or SNWM but I can't figure him out.
Lt. G. Outram is a bit of a mystery too, he should be easily identifiable, but he isn't!?

The last WW2 casualty Robert Shorrock isn't on CWGC, he died at home in December 1942 in Port William of T.B. and pneumonia. On his D.C. he is described as a "Sea Farer" aged 51. The memorial lists him as R.N.R.

The WW1 and WW2 Milhench casualtes are likely related. The name is so rare, there's four others of the same surname. Similarly the two Kevan's of each war listed, just 8 others of the surname on CWGC.

Cheers,
Derek.


Derek - I can now answer some of these questions.
Peter McMaster Barr, enlisted in the Royal Navy (J 59197) in September 1916 but was transferred to the RNR (DA 14695) in February 1917. He was Invalided out due to TB in January 1918 due to TB and died at home on 19 May 1918. On his D.Cert. he is shown as Gunner, Royal Naval Reserve, Hydrophone Operator.
I have sent his name forward as a possible non-Com.
His brothers, Alexander and Walter, are also on the Memorial.

G. Outram was a puzzle - but on the memorial plaque in the Parish Church he is Edmund Outram.
He was a 2nd Lt. 26th Manchester Regiment. Killed on 1 July 1916 at the Somme.
His parents came to live in Port William after the war but later moved to Yorkshire.
His father was the senior Captain of the Allan Steamship Co. and, as the Master of the SS Alsatian, served as a member of the Royal Naval Reserve when his ship became an armed merchant cruiser and the flag ship of the 10th Cruiser Squadron. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Order for his service.

Robert Shorrock, served in the navy throughout WW1 until discharged to the Reserves in 1920.
He had been born in Blackburn and married a Glenluce lass in 1918, settling in Port William.
Intriguingly he is shown as SIGmn. on the War Memorial but as Fireman on the Church Memorial.

I'm still not sure about the Milhench's but I suspect they were cousins.
Peter was born in 1888 in Mochrum (parents Robert & Jane) and was killed in 1918 serving with the Canadian Infantry.
James was born in 1894 (parents James & Jane) and was the Master of the SS Ocean Trader. He died in 1942 and is buried in Boston, Massachusetts.


Another man you mention later was Robert Hailes, who had no obvious link to the area.
Robert was the Butler to the Maxwell family at Monreith House.
He was born in Eye, Suffolk and married in Ashbourne, Derbyshire. Sadly his daughter, who had been born in Wrexham, died in 1911 (at nearly 4 years old) and is buried in Mochrum Churchyard.
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-ftopic1470-0-asc-30.html
He was 40 years old and a Private in the Royal Scots (what a culture shock that must have been)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the men named on the Mochrum Parish War Memorial in Port William are also named on the Roll of Honour in the Parish Church in Mochrum Village.
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-ftopic5737.html



CORPORAL, FRANK ANDERSON.
[Church RoH - Corpl. Frank Anderson]
Robert Francis Anderson, Private (6029) 8th Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps. Attached to 23rd Brigade Royal Field Artillery. Age 21.
Frank landed in France on 20 August 1914, part of 8th Brigade, 3rd Division. The Medal Roll shows him as Frank Anderson, Acting Sergeant, reverted to Private when he changed his unit on 1 May 1915.
Born 1894 in Kirkdale, West Derby, Lancashire. Son of James and Jane Anderson of Elrig Village, Mochrum. "Frank" was born and brought up in Liverpool where his father, James, was a policeman. James had been born in Mochrum and returned there when he retired.
Killed in Action on 30 June 1915 and buried in Brandhoek Military Cemetery, Belgium.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three sons of Alexander Clave Barr of Elrig, and of the late Elizabeth (McMaster) Barr.

PIONr. ALEX BARR.
[Church RoH - Pioneer. Alex Barr]
Alexander Barr, Private (8539) 1st Battalion, Scots Guards. Age 21.
Alexander landed with his battalion at Le Havre on 13 August 1914; one of the first British formations to move to France.
Born 1893 in Mochrum.
Missing in Action on 11 November 1914 and named on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.

GUNNER, PETER M. BARR, R.N.R.
[Church RoH - Gunner. Peter M. Barr]
Peter McMaster Barr, Gunner/Hydrophone Operator (DA 14695) Royal Naval Reserve. Formerly Ordinary Seaman (J59197) Royal Navy. Age 19.
Peter enlisted as Ordinary Seaman (J59197) in the Royal Navy in September 1916. He was transferred to the RNR in February 1917 and was based at Larne in Ireland when he was diagnosed with tuberculosis. He was discharged from the navy in February 1918 and died at home in Elrig Village, Mochrum.
Born 1899 in Elrig, Mochrum.
Died on 19 May 1918 but burial place unknown.

[Peter's name was added to the CWGC UK Book of Remembrance on 6 February 2015]
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=9015

SAPPER, WALTER BARR.
[Church RoH - Sapper. Walter Barr]
Walter Barr, Sapper (146773) 234th Field Company, Royal Engineers. Age 29.
Born 1888 in Mochrum.
Died on Active Service on 21 May 1917 and buried in Calais Southern Cemetery, France.


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