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alexmaclennan



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Duntocher and Hardgate Reply with quote

This memorial is on Roman Road, Hardgate, opposite the Antonine Sports Centre.

The memorial has four parts. There is a square cemented semi dressed stone base that is approximately 1.5m square by 60cmhigh. A square grey granite plinth about 30cm high lies on this base. This plinth has the WW2 dedication and names of WW2 servicemen on panels, on all 4 sides. A grey granite tapering square block lies on top of the plinth. This contains the WW1 dedication and names of servicemen on panels, on all 4 sides. This block is about 1m high. Above the main block is a Celtic Cross. The cross is about 2m high. The cross is grey granite with a sword decoration on the front of the cross. The sword points downwards with the handle lying along the top arm of the cross and the guards along the left and right arms of the cross. The blade extends down the shaft of the cross. The cross has a wheel.

The memorial is set into a sloping garden with mature shrubs and heathers

















Note 1. C and G are very similar on the inscription of names, so I may have made an error in transcribing Cs and Gs
Note 2. I assume that the names on the main block are from WW1 and on the plinth are from WW2

1. Main dedication inscription on the main block, below the incised Cross

ERRECTED BY
THE INHABITANTS
IN
PROUD AND LOVING MEMORY OF
THE MEN OF
DUNTOCHER AND HARDGATE
WHO LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES
IN THE GREAT WAR
1914 - 18


2. Subsidiary dedication inscription on the plinth below the main dedication

ALSO
IN MEMORY OF
THE MEN, WHO LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES
IN THE SECOND GREAT WAR
1939 - 1945

2. Stone panels on the other three sides of the main block. Names arranged by Surname. Rank, forename (s), surname and Regiment/service given

Panel 1
CPL. A. ALLAN, A. & S.H.
PTE. G. ALLAN, H.L.I
SMN. J. BECKETT, R.N.
PTE. D. BLACK, S.G.
PTE. J. BODEN, R.H.
PTE. J. BOYCE, H.L.I.
PTE. G. BRODIE, A. & S.H.
PTE. G. BROGAN, ENN DRAGNS
PTE. J. CALDWELL, A. & S.H.
PTE . R.CAMERON, R.H.
PTE. T. CAMERON, A. & S.H.
PTE. J. CAMPBELL, A. & S.H.
PTE. A. CAREY, A. & S.H.
PTE. G. CAREY, A. & S.H.
PTE. R. CARMICHAEL, R.S.F.
TPR. B. COLLINS, WARWK. YEO.
PTE. W. CURRIE, R.S.
PTE. M. DOCHERTY,. A. & S.H.
PTE. E. DOCHERTY,. A. & S.H.
PTE. P. DOCHERTY,. H.L.I.
PTE. J. DONALD C.H.
PTE. R. DONALDSON A. & S.H.
PTE. G. EASDALE R.S.
PTE. N. HILLCOAT, G.H.
S.R. W.P. HOLMES, R.H.

Panel 2
PTE. J. FERRIE, R.S.F.
PTE. J. FINLAY, H.L.I.
L/CPL.W. S. FRENCH H.L.I.
PTE. W.GOLDIE, G.H.
PTE. W. GORDON, A. & S.H.
PTE. M. HASSAN, R.S.
PTE. J. HAY, S.R.
PTE. J. HEALY A. & S.H.
PTE. W. IRVING, A. & S.H.
PTE. N. KEARNEY, G.H.
CPL. J. KELLY, A. & S.H.
PTE. T. KELLY, H.L.I.
GNR. A. KINLOCH R.F.A.
PTE. J. MARLEY, A. & S.H.
PTE. W. MOCHAN, A. & S.H.
PTE. J. MULHEARN, H.L.I.
PTE. D. MULLEN, R.S.F.
PTE. A. McALLISTER, H.L.I.
PTE. J. McALLISTER, R.S.F.
GNR. W. McALLISTER, R.F.A.
PTE. G. McAULEY A. & S.H.
PTE. M. McCREADIE, A. & S.H.
PTE. T. McCUE, R.S.F.
PTE. J. McCUE A. & S.H.
PTE. P. McGRATH A. & S.H.


Panel 3
GNR. R. McDADE R.F.A.
PTE. A. McDONALD, H.L.I.
PTE. J.S. McKENDRICK A. & S.H.
L/CPL. J. McKENDRICK M.G.C.
PTE. C. McKENDRICK A. & S.H.
PTE. J. McKENZIE, S.R.
PTE. R. McLACHLAN, A. & S.H.
PTE. J. McLAUGHLIN, K.O.S.B.
PTE. J.McLEAN, G.H.
PTE. W. McNICOL, A. & S.H.
PTE. T. POWELL, G.H.
L.CPL. J.A. SELKIRK, A. & S.H.
L.CPL J SHANNON, A. & S.H.
PTE. H. SMALL, A. & S.H.
PTE. A. SOMMERVILLE, K.O.S.B
PTE. R. STEWART, H.L.I.
PTE. D. STIRLING, R.S.
PTE. J. THORNORN, H.L.I.
PTE. A. TURNER H.L.I.
PTE. D.V. VINITZKER, R.S.
PTE. J. WATSON, A. & S.H.
V.R. R. WELSH R.F.A
PTE. J. WOOD, A. & S.H.
E.MCAFFERY LANCERS

3. Stone panels on the other three sides of the plinth. Names arranged by Surname. Rank, forename (s), surname and Regiment/service given. There are two columns per panel

Panel 1, Column 1
CPL. J. ABBOTT, R.S.F.
GNR T. ANKLETON, R.A.
O.S. W. BOYD, R.N.
STRD.G. CAIRNEY, M.N.
SPR. T.CARWARDINE, R.E.
PTE. J. CASSIDY SEA.H.

Panel 1, Column 2
CHFEN. E. FALLONE, M.N.
SGT. P. FOX, R.A.F.
SPR. J GALLAGHER, R.E.
GNR. D. GILLESPIE, R.A.
PTE. E.J. HENDRY, R.A.S.C.
P.O. J. JOHNSTONE, R.A.F.

Panel 2, Column 1
MRNE.J.E. KENNEDY, R.M.
GNR. J.J. LAWLESS, R.A.
L/CPL.M. McCONNELL, G.H.
PTE. P. McGOVERN, G.H.
A.B. G. MAGUIRE, R.N.
L/CPL.J. McKINLAY, A. & S.H.

Panel 2, Column 2
SGT. F. MUNRO, R.A.S.C.
PTE. J. PATERSON, C.H.
SGT. A. ROBERTSON, R.A.F.
PTE. M. ROBERTSON, R.A.S.C.
ELTCN.F. RODGERS, M.N.
A.B. J. SMITH, R.N.

Panel 3, Column 1
PTE. T. BOYCE, CAMS.
P.A. DONALDSON, G.H.
Panel 3, Column 2
ODSM.A. HAMILTON, S.G.
PTE. H. McKEEGAN, R.A.M.C.A.


There is a small rectangular copper or brass plate with

ROBERT GRAY
MONUMENTAL SCULPTOR
335A ST VINCENT STREET
GLASGOW G2.


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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memorial was erected by Glasgow monumental sculptors Messrs. Scott Rae. The entry in their Daybook reads:
'Order No. 5761, Duntocher, Grey Cross, Erected June 1921, Day Book 327'
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Duntocher Memorial Reply with quote

Hi,

My uncle, Ernest Fallone, is commemorated on the plinth.

Details as below:

FALLONE, Fifth Engineer Officer, ERNEST, M.V. Nottingham (London). Merchant Navy. 7th November 1941. Age 30.

Place of Death: North Atlantic about 550 miles South-East of Cape Farewell

Historical Information: Cargo ship Nottingham, 8,532grt, (Federal SN Co. Ltd had been sailing independently on her maiden voyage from Glasgow to Australia via New York with a general cargo. On the 7th November 1941 the ship was intercepted by U-74, one of 14 U-boats of the "Raubritter" patrol group. and sunk by torpedo in position 53' 24N 31' 51W. No distress call was ever sent and it is not known if the crew had time to launch any lifeboats. The Captain, Francis C. Petty OBE DSC, all 55 crew and her 6 DEMCemetery/Memorial: Tower Hill Memorial, London, UK

Memorial Ref: Panel 74

Location Details: Tower Hill Memorial in London

Hope this is of interest.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very much of interest, anything else, especially a photo would also be very welcome

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:48 am    Post subject: John Millar Reply with quote

Not listed upon this memorial.

(Glasgow Herald 7th November 1945)
"In a prisoner of war camp, Sumatra, on 12th April, 1945, John Millar, member Straits Trading Company, Singapore, only son of the late Mr & Mrs James Millar, Hardgate, and beloved husband of Annie Gray."

CWGC
Name: MILLAR, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 51
Date of Death: 12/04/1945
Additional information: Singapore C.D.S. Son of the late James and Ann McCall Millar, of Duntocher, Hardgate, Dumbarton, Scotland; husband of Annie Millar. Died at Internment Camp, Bankinang.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SUMATRA

SNWM
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Pte. Daniel Brogan Reply with quote

According to the transcription by Dunbartonshire Council of the memorial there is a D. Brogan listed, but it appears to be a G. Brogan.
However there is a D. Brogan of the Enniskillin Fusiliers who would fit. There is only one G. Brogan on CWGC and he's in a English regiment. So why would the transcription but wrong, but correct?

(Glasgow Herald 19th March 1915)
"Mrs Robert Dogran, 45 William Street, Duntocher, has received word of the death in action of her brother, Private Daniel Brogan, 2nd Battalion Inniskilling Fusiliers. Brogan was working in the shipyard of messrs John Brown and Co. (Limited) when called up as a reservist. He had seven years service with the colours and was 25 years of age. He was killed instantaneously while in the trenches."

WW1
GD. Brogan, Enn.Dragns.

CWGC
BROGAN, D
Rank: Private
Service No: 7972
Date of Death: 11/03/1915
Age: 24
Regiment/Service: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference: II. F. 2.
Cemetery: POST OFFICE RIFLES CEMETERY, FESTUBERT
Additional Information: Son of Mr. P. Brogan, of Pharos Post Office, Ballymoney, Co. Antrim.

SNWM
Surname: BROGAN
Firstname: Daniel
Service Number: 7972
Date Death: 11/03/1915
Place of birth: Antrim
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM IRISH REGIMENTS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:00 am    Post subject: Pte. John Healy Reply with quote

WW1
Pte. J. Healy, A. & S.H.

(Glasgow Herald 24th May 1915)
"Mr & Mrs Healy, Filshie's Land, Duntocher, have received intimation that their son, Private John Healy, 1st 9th A, and S.H. (T.F.), has been killed in action. Private Healy, who was 22 years of age, was an apprentice caulker with Messrs William Bearmore and Co. (Limited), Dalmuir, prior to the outbreak of war."

CWGC
HEALY, J
Rank: Private
Service No: 1722
Date of Death: 27/04/1915
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st/9th Bn.
Grave Reference: VIII. E. 16.
Cemetery: OOSTTAVERNE WOOD CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: HEALY
Firstname: John
Service Number: 1722
Date Death: 27/04/1915
Place of birth: Old Kilpatrick Dumbartonshire
Other: 1/9th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: William Goldie Reply with quote

William Goldie Private S/11807 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Old Kilpatrick,Dumb. e Dumbarton Age 24 Killed in Action Somme, France 01/07/1916 Son of John and Annie Goldie, of Roberton Cottage, Hardgate, Duntocher, Dumbartonshire. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
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Moses McCready Private S/41395 1st/5th Bn. Gordon Highlanders b N. Kilpatrick,D'tonsh e Clydebank Age 21 Killed in Action Pas de Calais, France 23/04/1918 Son of William and Sarah McCready, of Moors Land, Hardgate, Duntocher, Glasgow. Soldiers Effects: Mo: Sarah B. St Venant-Robecq Road British Cemetery, Robecq Fr 0248 Plot II Row E Grave 24 The Scotsman 27-06-18 P6: Duntocher.
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Hillcoat Henry Crombie Private S/41758 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Glasgow e Clydebank Age 22 Died of Wounds Italy 03/11/1918 Son of Robert and Elizabeth Hillcoat, of Lanarkshire. Soldiers Effects: Fa: Robert. Giavera British Cemetery, Arcade, Italy Italy 07 Plot V Row E Grave 11 The Scotsman 28-12-18 P7: Patrick.
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