The Scottish War Memorials Project

apanderson · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:

Hello Helen,

Welcome to the Forum.

All three 'McDowalls' are listed on Family Gravestones in 'The Joint Section of New Monkland Cemetery in Glenmavis although Thomas's surname is spelt McDOWELL, whereas John and Mathew's surname is spelt McDOWALL

I don't know whether you're aware of our 'sister' site - the Scottish War Graves Project? There are photos os the stones already posted on that site. This link: http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=217&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150&mforum=scottishwargraves should take you directly to the page showing the photos. If the link doesn't work, try: http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/index.php?mforum=scottishwargraves then on the Lanarkshire Board, you'll find New Monkland Cemetery and the photos are on page 11 of the thread

John McDowall and Matthew McDowall were the sons of David & Agnes Harvie McDowall (nee Todd)

Thomas Orr McDowell was the son of George and Helen McDowell.

Could you confirm that these are the same men as mentioned on Airdrie War Memorial, and if so, is the spelling of Thomas's surname incorrect?

Also, obviously John and Matthew were brothers, but what relationship was Thomas to them (cousin possibly)?

It's not the first time we've discovered variants in spelling both on memorials and gravestones, although I tend to go with the spelling on the stones.

You can drive right round New Monkland so your husband might want to go and visit the family graves as visiting the memorial isn't very handy. If you'd like high resolution copies of the photos of each of the stones (to help in finding them), please don't hesitate to get in touch with me through a Private Message, give me details of your personal e-mail and I'll forward copies. There is a small office just inside the main gates in Condorrat Road and usually there are groundsmen around who, if shown the photos, would probably be quite happy to guide you to each of the stones.

Anne

helen · Joined: 25 Oct 2008 Posts: 2

H Anne, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I wanted first to speak to my husbands elderly aunt.

There were three McDowall brothers killed in ww1 but one was married and living in Ayrshire, his memorial stone is with his wife and child in Ayrshire, the aunt says Agnes the mother of the boys always said her sons would always be together and this is what led people to believe that it was the three brothers on the memorial.

Now to Matthew I have never quite figuered that one out, after a long time searching I found a death for him Dunoon 1919 he was found dead on Alexandra parade Dunoon and the cause of death was natural causes possibly heart giving out occupation was given as blacksmith and usual address was Woodend Cottage Airdrie, I just dont know what to make of it could he have been in a hospital any help would be appreciated.
Regard Helen

DerekR · Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:57 am Post subject:

Name: CUPPLES, JOHN MUNRO
Initials: J M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 10th/11th Bn.
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 46th T.M. Bty.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 06/03/1918
Service No: 17189
Awards: M M
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Jessie Cupples, of 19, Quarry Rd., Airdrie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. A. 31.
Cemetery: FAUBOURG D'AMIENS CEMETERY, ARRAS
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DelBoy · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject:

Name: STEWART, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 152 (The Ayrshire Yeomanry) Field Regt.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 08/04/1943
Service No: 1118412
Additional information: Son of John and M. P. Stewart, of Airdrie, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Face 8.
Memorial: MEDJEZ-EL-BAB MEMORIAL

John Stewart

Name: STEWART, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Nav.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 21
Date of Death: 16/12/1942
Service No: 1346251
Additional information: Son of William Rae Stewart and Helen Wilson Stewart, of Airdrie.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. A. C. Grave 346.
Cemetery: NEW MONKLAND CEMETERY

and
Private HELEN MCGARRY HOGG
W/320857
Auxiliary Territorial Service
Died 24 September 1945
Aged 18
Daughter of David Leslie and Margaret Hogg, of Hinckley
Buried in Hinckley Cemetery

SNWM:
Surname: HOGG
Firstname: Helen McG
Service number: 320857
Date of death: 24/09/1945
Place of birth: Airdrie
SNWM roll: WOMEN'S SERVICES
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: United Kingdom

The above three on the Airdrie memorial are all close relations to a cousin of mine, but not my relation, a different line Confused

The family have many letters from John Stewart who was in North Africa til his death. William and John were cousins.

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject:

MARTIN, JAS. A. is also listed on the Urr War Memorial, Dumfries and Galloway.

James Adam Martin, after study at Glasgow University, was admitted as a law agent in 1903 and was a procurator, managing clerk and, from 1913, a partner in the solicitors Messrs. Motherwell, McMurdo & Mitchell of Airdrie. A member of Airdrie Golf and Bowling Clubs. He enlisted in September 1914 as a Private in the Glasgow Highlanders (9th HLI) and in April 1915 was commissioned in the 6th Battalion before the battalion was transported to Egypt. He left Egypt for Gallipoli on 28 June and within days of arriving was killed in the action of 12 July 1915.
Born 1881 on the family farm of The Fell, Crocketford in the parish of Urr, he was unmarried.

Name: MARTIN, JAMES ADAM
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Highland Light Infantry
Unit text: 6th Bn
Age: 34
Date of Death: 12 July 1915
Add. Info: Son of John and Eliza Martin of The Fell, Crocketford, Dumfries.
Memorial: Helles Memorial, Panel 173 to 177
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Ken