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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Holytown, North Lanarkshire Reply with quote

Location: On Edinbugh Road at junction of A775, B799 and A723. At east end of Holytown Main Street
Google Maps Street View
UKNIWM Ref: 44549

DSCN9387 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

DSCN9388 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

DSCN9389 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

DSCN9391 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

DSCN9390 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr


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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a close up of the statue:



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memorial was by monumental sculptors Mesrs. Scott & Rae of Glasgow, the daybook entry reads:
'Order No. 5735, Holytown, Figure & Pedestal, Erected September 1921, Daybook 368'.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: not there for now Reply with quote

Hi all was through Holytown yesterday and noticed that the memorial has been removed (I couldn't stop)
but it looks like it is being refurbished new footings will keep an eye on this area and try to ask whats going on

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe

Thanks for the update. I saw something in the 'Bellshill Speaker' about this a while ago (my wife is from Bellshill so gets a regular supply of the local rag and sometimes I have a wee look). There was an article about plans to redevelop that area between the war memorial and the roundabout.

You can see here for more details of the bid from N. Lanarkshire Council's website

http://mars.northlan.gov.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/report/060950.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have updated the location details in the first post for this memorial. If you check it out on Google Maps Street View you can see they have driven along the Edinburgh Road twice.

You can see the memorial here:

Google Maps Street View 1

But just go along a few yards and it must have been taken in August last year when the memorial had been removed as Joe mentioned above

Google Maps Street View 2

Go on a bit further and hey presto! It's back

Google Maps Street View 3

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Sgt. Peter Dolski Reply with quote

A unique surname in CWGC.

WW2
Peter Dolski

CWGC
Name: DOLSKIE, PETER
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 11 Coast Regt.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 27/11/1945
Service No: 1421477
Additional information: Son of Joseph and Mary Dolskie; husband of Lillian Beatrice Dolskie, of Dalston, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: H. A. 8.
Cemetery: RABAUL (BITA PAKA) WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: DOLSKIE
Firstname: Peter
Service number: 1421477
Date of death: 27/11/1943
Place of birth: Lanarkshire
SNWM roll: ROYAL ARTILLERY
Rank: Sgt


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:00 am    Post subject: Pte. John Pawilonis Reply with quote

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John Pawilonis

Name: PAWILONIS, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 16/11/1944
Service No: 2822327
Additional information: Son of Anthony and Elizabeth Pawilonis, of Holytown, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: V. A. 9.
Cemetery: VENRAY WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: PAWLLONIS (Pawilonis?)
Firstname: John
Service number: 2822327
Date of death: 16/11/1944
Place of birth: Sutherland
SNWM roll: SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS (ROSS-SHIRE BUFFS, THE DUKE OF ALBANY'S)
Rank: Pte


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: Korean War Casualty Reply with quote

KOREA
Hugh McBride

Surname: McBRIDE
Forenames/Initials: Hugh
Rank: Pte
Service: Army
Service Number: 22231694
Regiment/Corps: A & SH
Date of Birth: 23 February 1926
Age: 26
Date of Death: 06 June 1952
Cemetery Name: Colonial Cemetery
Cemetery Address: Happy Valley, Hong Kong
Grave Section: 46
Grave Number: 100727
Included on Armed Forces Memorial: Yes
Included on Roll of Honour: Yes


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:47 am    Post subject: Laughlan Brothers? Reply with quote

Andrew and Robert Lauchlan may be brothers, they share the same parents names. Edward has a different fathers name.

Roberts name on the memorial is Robebty. Perhaps a nickname he was known by?

Andrew Laughlan

CWGC
Name: LAUGHLAN, ANDREW
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Rifleman
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 11/07/1944
Service No: 14656648
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Sarah Laughlan, of Bellshill, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. E. 2.
Cemetery: BANNEVILLE-LA-CAMPAGNE WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: LAUGHLAN
Firstname: Andrew
Service number: 14656648
Date of death: 11/07/1944
Place of birth: Glasgow
SNWM roll: THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Rank: Rfn

Robert Laughlan

CWGC
Name: LAUGHLAN, ROBERT MULLEN
Initials: R M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 11/11/1944
Service No: 2753324
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Sarah Laughlan; husband of Jane Laughlan.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II, D, 16.
Cemetery: CESENA WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: LAUGHLAN
Firstname: Robert M
Service number: 2753324
Date of death: 11/11/1944
Place of birth: Lanarkshire
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLAND REGIMENT) and THE TYNESIDE SCOTTISH
Rank: Sgt

Edward Laughlan

CWGC
Name: LAUGHLAN, EDWARD
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Welch Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 20/09/1944
Service No: 1545207
Additional information: Son of Edward and Sarah Laughlan; husband of Jean Reid Lindsay Laughlan, of Burnbank, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVII, J, 8.
Cemetery: CORIANO RIDGE WAR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: LAUGHLAN
Firstname: Edward
Service number: 1545207
Date of death: 20/09/1944
Place of birth: Motherwell & Wishaw
Other: The Welch Regiment
SNWM roll: SCOTSMEN IN VARIOUS UNITS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Pte. James (Graham) Greenshields Reply with quote

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James Greenshields, 1st B.W. Pte.

(Glasgow Herald 9th March 1915)
"The War Office have notified the relatives of J. Graham Greenshields (1st Black Watch). resident at Main Street, Holytown, that he was wounded in action some time ago, and that, as nothing had been heard of him since, he is regarded as missing."

CWGC
GREENSHIELDS, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 8017
Date of Death: 28/10/1914
Age: 42
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: (Served as GRAHAM). Son of Mary Hastie Greenshields, of 65 Main St, Holytown, Lanarkshire, and the late James Greenshields.

SNWM
Surname: GRAHAM (real name GREENSHIELDS)
Firstname: James
Service Number: 8017
Date Death: 28/10/1914
Place of birth: Wishaw Lanarkshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Memorial Transcription Reply with quote

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Hugh Adair, K.O.S.B. Pte.
Arch. Alexander, 2nd B.W. Pte.
John Nelson Allan, R.F.A. Dvr.
John Anderson, 6th S.R. Pte.
Thos. Neilson Blackwood, R.A.M.C. Cpl.
Robert Black, 2nd H.L.I. L.Cpl.
William Black 2nd H.L.I. Sgt.
John Boden, B.W. Pte.
Alexander Brown, 2nd H.L.I. Pte.
Rev. J.E. Cattral, R.A.M.C. Q.M.S.
William Nicol Clark, 9th H.L.I. S.B.
Thomas Coleman M.M. 10th G.H. Sgt.
John Dickson, 10th G.H. Pte.
Daniel Dobbie, S.H. Pte.
Robert Ellwood, G.H. Pte.
Ewan Fraser, 9th H.L.I. L.Cpl.
James Saywood, R.S.P. Pte.
Patrick Gibney, 1st R.Dub.Fus. Pte.
William Gill, R.E. Sapr.
John Russell Grant, 5th S.R. Lieut.
Chas. Greenshields, Australians Pte.
James Greenshields, 1st B.W. Pte.
George Henderson, K.R.R. Pte.
Matthew Jack, R.E. Sapr.
Wm. Jolly Junr. 6th S.R. Pte.
Frank Kennedy, 18th H.L.I. Pte.
Thomas Kennedy, 11th H.L.I. Pte.
Thomas Kerr, Canadians S.Maj.
William Kirkby, 8th B.W. L.Cpl.
William Lambie, G.H. Pte.
John Leitch, R.N.D. A.B.
John Lennox, 10th B.W. Pte.
Alex. Livingston, 9th B.W. Pte.
Michael McGrady, K.O.S.B. Pte.
George McGraw, 1st H.L.I. Pte.
James McGraw, 11th H.L.I. Pte.
William McGuire, 10th G.H. Pte.
John MaMahon, 2nd C.H. Pte.
Robert Murphy, 9th S.R. Pte.
Alex Paterson M.M. 1/5th G.H. Cpl.
Thos. James Paterson, 1/8th S.R. Pte.
James Berry, 10th H.L.I. Pte. (out of sequence?)
James Keir Pyper, 10th H.L.I. Pte.
Thomas Porteous, N.Zealanders Cpl.
John Rodger, 13th H.L.I. Pte.
James W. Ronnie, R.A.M.C. Pte.
Alexander Russell, 13th H.L.I. Pte.
Matthew Smith, 10th C.H. Pte.
William J. Stewart, 18th H.L.I. Cpl.
Robert Sommerville, Sct.Guards Pte.
Edward Trainer, 10th S.H. Pte.
John Traquair, 6th S.R. Pte.
James Watson, 3rd C.H. Pte.
William Wilson, R.S.F. Pte.
John Young, 2nd B.W. Pte.
Robert Brown, 1st Sct.Guards Pte.

WW2

Wlliam Brown
Peter Dolski
Robert P. Donald
Henry Ferguson
Walter Gilchrist
Frank Gilmour
Andrew Laughlan
Edward Laughlan
Robebty Laughlan
Joseph Little
James McKay
William Murray
John Pawilonis
Robert Whitelaw

KOREA

Hugh McBride


(C.H. & G.H. may be incorrect in the transcription as they are difficult to make out)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Rev. Q.M.S. John Edward Cattral Reply with quote

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Rev. J.E. Cattral Q.M.S. R.A.M.C.

No mention of his reverend status in his military rank. Not listed on the St Giles memorial to ministers as he's not Scottish, hence why absent from SNWM also. I wonder what the connection to Holytown is?

CWGC
CATTRALL, JOHN EDWARD
Rank: Company Quartermaster Serjeant
Service No: 40015
Date of Death: 24/03/1918
Age: 38
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps 44th Field Amb.
Grave Reference: IV. C. 6.
Cemetery: NOYON NEW BRITISH CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of John and Mary Cattrall, of 6, Severn Terrace, Longden, Coleham, Shrewsbury.

SNWM
unlisted
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:36 am    Post subject: Sgt. Thomas Coleman M.M. Reply with quote

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Thomas Coleman M.M. 10th G.H. Sgt.

CWGC
COLEMAN, T
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 7730
Date of Death: 06/11/1917
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) 95th Bn.
Awards: M M (Military Medal)
Grave Reference: LVII. E. 33.
Cemetery: TYNE COT CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: COLEMAN
Firstname: Thomas
Service Number: 5517
Date Death: 06/11/1917
Decoration: M.M.
Place of birth: Carntree Co Tyrone
Other: latterly 7730 Machine Gun Corps (Inf.).
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Sgt
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: Cpl. Alexander Paterson M.M. Reply with quote

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Alex. Paterson M.M. 1/5th G.H. Cpl.

CWGC
PATERSON, ALEXANDER
Rank: Corporal
Service No: S/40501
Date of Death: 28/07/1918
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 1st/5th Bn.
Awards: M M (Military Medal)
Grave Reference: VII. A. 2.
Cemetery: RAPERIE BRITISH CEMETERY, VILLEMONTOIRE
Additional Information: Son of Thomas and Jemima Stirton Paterson, of 22, Main St., Holytown, Lanarkshire.

SNWM
Surname: PATERSON
Firstname: Alexander
Service Number: S/40501
Date Death: 28/07/1918
Place of birth: Bothwell Lanarkshire
Other: 5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Cpl
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