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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Carsphairn Reply with quote

WMR 5879
OS map ref NX 56860 93088

Carsphairn war memorial in the Stewartry stands on the roadside in a beautifully laid out rock garden.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 5879

OS Map Ref: NX 569 930









The bench is not part of the memorial, but just look at the views from there, and that on a dreich day in January to boot!









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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim

Great photos and what an unusual shape for a memorial.
I always like ones where they've picked the best spot in the parish to site the memorial.

It's nice to see the inscription on the aircrash memorial, erected by the locals. I wonder if any realtives visit it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cracking pics.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Notice that the man who unveiled the memorial was a Clark-Kennedy and there are 2 Clark-Kennedys listed on the memorial so presumably a relative.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The graves of two of those listed in Carsphairn churchyard



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Below are the Clark-Kenndy casualties. The man who unveiled the monument, Wm. H. Clark-Kennedy was possibly their brother?

Name: CLARK-KENNEDY, ALEXANDER KENELM
Initials: A K
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 19/04/1917
Additional information: Son of the late Capt. and Hon. Mrs. Alexander Clark-Kennedy, of Knockgray, Galloway. A Civil Servant (Factory Department, Home Office).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVIII. A. 3.
Cemetery: GAZA WAR CEMETERY

Name: CLARK KENNEDY, ARCHIBALD DOUGLAS HEWITT
Initials: A D H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 18/09/1918
Awards: Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of the late Capt. and Hon. Mrs. Clark Kennedy, of Knockgray, Carsphairn, Galloway.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. D. 20.
Cemetery: QUEANT ROAD CEMETERY, BUISSY
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
Below are the Clark-Kenndy casualties. The man who unveiled the monument, Wm. H. Clark-Kennedy was possibly their brother?



Despite searching in ancestry.co.uk for quite some time, I have been unable to find ANY Clark-Kennedys, hyphenated or otherwise, in any English or Scottish census from 1881, 1891 or 1901. Even tried searching all residents or born in Carsphairn or Knockgray. Odd!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another 'challenge' from one of Spoon's posts.
Undoubtedly much more could be discovered about the family but here are a few bits and pieces.
First post is the family in the 1891 census. My assumption that W.H. Clark-Kennedy, who unveiled the memorial, was a brother of Archibald & Alexander, would appear to be correct;

1891: 72 Eaton Place, St. George Hanover Square, Knightsbridge, London
Alexander W M Clark Kennedy abt 1852 Rochester, Kent, England Head (Magistrate - Chaplain - H.M. Army Off)
Lettice L Kennedy abt 1853 Dublin, Ireland Wife
Alexander K Kennedy abt 1884 Sturminster, Dorset, England Son
Alice A Kennedy abt 1883 Sturminster, Dorset, England Daughter
Archibald Kennedy abt 1889 St George Hanover Square, London, England Son
John W J Kennedy abt 1876 Scotland Son
Leopold J Kennedy abt 1881 Sturminster, Dorset, England Son St George Hanover Square London
Lettice E Kennedy abt 1878 South Kennington, London, England Daughter
William H Kennedy abt 1879 Scotland Son
Ada E M Talbot abt 1860 Stanton, Suffolk, England Servant (Nurse)
Lizzie J Westland abt 1871 Newcross, Kent, England Servant (Nurserymaid)
Eliza A Northcotte abt 1851 Stowford, Devon, England Servant (Parlormaid)
Ann Risebro abt 1836 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Servant (Cook)
Louisa Trott abt 1875 China (British Subject) Servant (Kitchenmaid)
Ann McLeod abt 1856 Scotland Servant (Housemaid)
Elizabeth Hamblin abt 1860 Milborne Port, Somerset, England Servant (Laundrymaid)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A snapshot from the plantagenet roll - "The Tudor Roll and the Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal (5 volumes). In these works the Marquis de Ruvigny set out to trace all the then (c. 1900-1910) living descendants of the Plantagenet and Tudor monarchs".
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was taken from the Glenkens Gazette (2004);
Once upon a time, Carsphairn was somewhere you drove through on the way to and from Ayr or points further north. To support the village, one used to stop and use the Post Office or have a drink (sometimes a meal) when coming home, but mostly one just slowed down and drove through. For me, all that stopped in the summer once the Heritage Centre began putting on its annual exhibitions. The first time I went, I was amazed at the amount of interesting items that were crammed into such a small place. “Crammed” is decidedly the wrong word as it never seems over-full and yet the building seems tiny from outside. This sense of wonder has not paled over time. The same team of wizards must spend long hours planning how to use every space to full effect and yet still leave room for the visitor to stand back and admire.

The exhibitions never fail to delight and this year’s is no exception. The subject is “A Carsphairn Family – 300 years at Knockgray. Lt. Col. Alexander John Clark Kennedy is the present owner of Knockgray, which has been the family home since it was bought in 1704 by Alexander Kennedy, the minister of Straiton. The property itself had been there for some time already. The first mention of it dates from 1582. The Kennedy family also has its roots well embedded in the mists of time. They are known to have lived in the South West of Scotland since the 13th century and a lot further back than that but reliable records sadly do not. The “Clark” element was added when the heiress, Anne Kennedy, married John Clarke in 1781.

On entering the Heritage Centre one’s eye immediately goes to the 5 beautiful dresses that are on display. These are Victorian and in a perfect condition, for which we have Alice Clark Kennedy to thank. Alice was the youngest daughter of Lettice Lucy and Captain Alexander Clark Kennedy who was known as “Spats”. He died in 1894 leaving Lettice a widow for 45 years. Maybe she kept her wedding dress to remind herself of her short marriage. In any event Alice was a hoarder and kept this dress and many other items for our pleasure now. (Don’t miss the unique Chatelaine Belt). Hoarding must have been a family trait as there are many artefacts, papers, letters, pictures and photographs going back to earlier days. Much of the information is of a military bent as nearly all the male Kennedys have been soldiers and they all seem to have distinguished themselves in wars and battles across the globe. Of particular note is one who captured a French Flag at the Battle of Waterloo (there is a dramatic picture recording this - see below) and another who was given the Victoria Cross for his actions in World War One.

The visitor will be fascinated with the details available about the running of Knockgray Estate, the lives of the various Kennedy family members and also how they interacted with the surrounding community. For example, I was interested to note that Lettice Lucy involved herself with the Glenkens Nursing Association. I wonder what happened to that? Although the male Kennedys were often abroad, they showed a lively interest in local and national affairs. “Spats” had particularly wide ranging interests and accomplishments. The current Colonel has done much for the community including having rescued the damaged Church bell when it was in danger of being carried away as a souvenir, by people who had found it in a midden. It is now given the respect it deserves inside the church.

This is a well presented exhibition which reflects all the hard work that has gone into making it so interesting. Do go. The exhibition is open at weekends at present but from 1st June it will be open during weekdays also. Leave yourself plenty of time to browse as well as to chat to the volunteer manning the desk.

IT WOULD APPEAR DESCENDENTS OF THE CLARK-KENNEDY'S ARE STILL AT KNOCKGRAY
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mark, all good stuff, I was aware of the Glenkens Gazette entry but lacked the proof that they were brothers because I could not find them in the census. I know see that they are all indexed under Kennedy instead of Clark Kennedy.

The family is indeed still in Knockgray and follows a very distinguished military line. "It is recorded that during the Battle of Waterloo a certain Colonel Alexander Clark-Kennedy, with his own hand, captured a Standard bearing the eagle of the 105th French Regiment." He later went on to become a Lt General and I think he was the 'boys' grandfather.

More tales from Carsphairn to come subject to a little research. But this from an ancient text............
"(Carsphairn) lyes in a desolat wilderness containing 500 Communicants. (The church) had been built at the expense of some gentlemen out of love for the souls of barbarous and ignorant people, who have hitherto been without knowledge of God, their children unbaptised, their dead unburied"

In its defence, it is a friendly and pleasing place today!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entries I picked up in De Ruvigny's. No picture portraits unfortunately.

CLARK KENNEDY, ALEXANDER KENELM
Capt. 1/5th (Territorial) Battn. The King's Own Scottish Borderers, 4th s. of the late Capt. Alexander William Maxwell Clark Kennedy, of Knockgray, Carsphairn, Galloway, late Coldstream Guards, by his wife, The Hon. Lettice Lucy, 3rd dau. of the 4th Viscount Lifford; gson of Col. Clark Kennedy C.B; of Knockgray; great-gson. of General Sir A. Clark Kennedy, K.C.B., K.H., of Knockgray (who fought at Waterloo, capturing the Eagle of the 105th Regt. of French Infantry); and brother to A.D.H. Clark Kennedy (q.v.); b. Henbury, Wimborne co. Dorset, 18 Dec. 1883; educ. Westminster School, and Trinity College, Cambridge; was one of H.M.'s Inspectors of Factories, under the Home Office; joined the Galloway Rifles (Volunteers) on 19 Oct. 1906, before they became the 5th King's Own Scottish Borderers (Territorials); was promoted Lieut. 20 Aug. 1907, and Capt 12 July 1915; served with the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force in Gallipoli from May, 1915; was invalided home in Oct. 1915; on recover, served for a short time with the 3rd Batt., and subsequently rejoined his battalion in Egypt, 1916, and took part in the Palestine Campaign, the regiment being in the well-known 52nd Division, and was at first wounded and later killed instantaneously at the Second Battle of Gaza 19 April, 1917, while leading his men against great odds. Buried where he fell. An officer said of him: "He was in every way a typical officer, with a strong influence for good over his men at all times". Capt. Clark Kennedy took a keen interest in the welfare of the boys, and sometimes did special work in that connection, and was also interested in various social questions. He has strong literary tastes, and was a frequent contributor to various magazines; unm.

CLARK KENNEDY, ARCHIBALD DOGLAS HEWITT
Capt. 1/5th (Territorial) Batt. The Royal Scots Fusiliers yst. s. of the late Capt. Alexander William Maxwell Clark Kennedy, of Knockgray, Carsphairn, Galloway, late Coldstream Guards, by his wife, The Hon. Lettice Lucy, 3rd dau. of the 4th Viscount Lifford; gson of Col. Clark Kennedy C.B; of Knockgray; great-gson. of General Sir A. Clark Kennedy, K.C.B., K.H., of Knockgray (who fought at Waterloo, capturing the Eagle of the 105th Regt. of French Infantry); and brother to Capt. A.K. Clark Kennedy (q.v.) ; b. London, W., 30 July 1888; educ. Westminster School, was in the employ of the Standard Life Insurance Company in Edinburgh and Bombay, and subsequently in the Law, Union and Rock Assurance Company in London; joined the 4th Royal Scots (Queen's Edinburgh Rifles) Volunteers 7 April, 1910, and the Bombay Light Horse in 1912; volunteered for active service on the outbreak of war, and was gazetted 2nd |Lieut. 1/5th Royal Scots Fusiliers 2 Sept, 1914; promoted Lieut. 12 July 195, and Capt. June, 1916; served with the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force in Gallipoli from May 1915, and subsequently with the Egyptian Expeditionary Force in Egypt and Palestine, where, during 1917, he was in command of an armoured train; transferred to France with his battalion in April, 1918, still forming part of the 52nd Division, and was killed near Moeuvres 18 Sept. following, during the advance on Cambrai. Buried near Inchy. A brother officer wrote: "He was unmoved even during the darkest days of the Gallipoli Peninsula", and one of his men wrote that: "His spirit and encouraging words, when in action, won him the admiration of all those whom he led, and they would have followed him anywhere". He was mentioned in Despatches (London Gazette, 16 Jan. 1918) by General Sir Edmund Allenby, G.C.M.G., K.C.B., for distinguished service. Capt. A. D. Clark Kennedy was a keen sportsman and an excellent shot, and was much interested in natural history, being well versed in most branches of it; unm.
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Passed by here a few weeks back, it's a great site.



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