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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: INVERKEITHING Reply with quote

Moved to present site in 1973. Situated in garden next to St Peter's Church, Church Street, Inverkeithing
Will get full transcription asap due to poor quality of photos.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,
Any idea why the memorial was moved from its original site?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Inverkeithing War Memorial Reply with quote

Sorry, do not know why it was moved. Will try and find out.
The present site is well maintained with benches and flower beds looked after by youth groups.
Pity that the names are so hard to read!
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WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
AIKMAN WILFRED
ALLISON THOMAS J.
ANDERSON ANDREW
ANDERSON JAMES A.
ANDERSON WILLIAM F.
ARMET JOHN M.
ARMIT DAVID
BALD ROBERT
BAULD JAMES M.
BAULD JOHN
BERRY JOHN
BINNING JAMES
BINNING ROBERT
BIRTHWICK JAMES F.
BLAKE JAMES
BLYTHMAN CHARLES
BORTHWICK GEORGE
BROWN DAVID
BROWN JOHN
BRYANT ARTHUR E.
BURNETT CHARLES
CAMPBELL JOHN
CARLYLE ROBERT
CARMICHAEL DAVID
CHAPLIN GEORGE
CHARLTON JOHN
CLARK JOHN M.
CLARK WILLIAM
COOPER ALFRED G.
COUTTS ALBERT J.
COYLE PATRICK A.
CRAM WILLIAM A.
CRAWFORD COOPER
CUTHBERT HENRY K.
DEAN CECIL R.
DICK WILLIAM
DONALDSON THOMAS
DONALDSON WILLIAM
DONNELLY THOMAS
DOW J. MITCHELL
DOWIE ROBERT
DOWIE WILLIAM
DUFF FINLAY
FARISH JAMES
FERGUSON DAVID
GALLIE DAVID
GIBSON WILLIAM
GILMORE JAMES
GRANT DONALD
GREER JOHN
HARRISON JOHN
HAY GEORGE
HAY JAMES
HORNE CECIL
HUTCHISON DAVID
JACK JAMES
JESSAMINE JAMES
JOHNSTON DAVID
KAY WILLIAM H.
KIRKHOPE JAMES T.
KNAPP ANDREW M.
LAWRIE JAMES M.
LEISHMAN ROBERT
LINDSAY PETER
LIVINGSTONE JOHN
LOCKHART ARCHIBALD ? ?
LONG CHARLES
LYNN JAMES
MACNAMARA DAVID
MARSHALL HENRY
MATHERS THOMAS
MCARTHUR THOMAS
MCCALLUM JOHN P.
MCCALLUM ROBERT P.
MCCREARY WILLIAM
MCCULLOCH GEORGE
MCDONALD ANDREW D.
MCGOVERN JAMES
MCKAY ALEX
MCKAY ANDREW
MCLEAN ALEXANDER
MILL WILLIAM G.
MILLAR DAVID G.
MILLER ROBERT
MITCHELL FRANK
MOIR GEORGE
MONK FRED
MORGAN DOUGLAS
MORRIS JAMES
MORRIS WILLIAM
MORRISON ROBERT
MURDOCH THOMAS
NEWTON JOHN
NIBLO WILLIAM
NICOLSON ALEXANDER
OVENSTONE PETER M.
PEARSE HERBERT
PETRIE JOHN
PRYDE WILLIAM
RANKINE JOHN
REDPATH JOHN
RICHARDSON JAMES
ROBERTSON ANDREW
ROBERTSON JAMES
ROBERTSON JOHN S.
ROBERTSON ROBERT
ROBERTSON WILLIAM
SHEPHERD JOHN
SIMMONS JAMES L.
SINCLAIR ROBERT
SIVRIGHT DAVID R. BEDELL
SMITH FRANCIS
SMITH JAMES
SMITH WALTER
SPALDING ROBERT
TANNOCK DAVID
TELFORD ROBERT
THOMSON CUNNINGHAM B.
THOMSON ROBERT
THORNTON ROBERT
THORNTON WILLIAM
TODD WILLIAM
TURNBULL JAMES M.
VASS DAVID
WATERIDGE WILLIAM
WATERSON WILLIAM
WHYTE ROBERT
WILSON HARRY P.
WYKES FRED
WYLIE CHARLES



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
ALLAN JOSEPH
BAXTER H.W.
BRAVIN CHARLES
CLARK THOMAS K.
DAVIE MARTIN
DEAS ELIZABETH
DICK JOHN
DIVERTIE ALEXANDER
DONALDSON JOHN F.
FORREST A.T.
HERD ROBERT
HUNTER ROBERT
JAMES WILLIAM
KAY JOHN
LEONARD J.F.
LEONARD R.S.
MACWILLIAM CHARLES A.
MATHESON JAMES
MCDONALD JOHN O.
MOODIE DAVID
MORGAN JOHN D.
MOYES PETER
MOYES ROBERT
MURRAY GORDON S.
MYNARD LEONARD
NEEP ADAM
NEWTON WILLIAM
O'HARA DRYSDALE
PORTEOUS ROBERT
ROBERTSON ROBERT MILITARY MEDAL
SADLER JOSEPH
SEELEY HARRY
TOUGH CHARLES
VAUGHAN WALLACE
WALLACE ALFRED
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: JESSAMINE
Initials: James Walter
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Date of Death: 26/04/1917
Service No: 266815
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. D. 20.
Cemetery: GUEMAPPE BRITISH CEMETERY, WANCOURT

(also commemorated on the Beith War Memorial)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The woman listed on the Second World War panel:

DEAS, ELIZABETH
Rank: Leading Aircraftwoman
Regiment/Service: Women's Auxiliary Air Force
Age: 22
Date of Death: 12/10/1942
Service No: 2040333
Additional information: Daughter of Thomas and Margaret Deas, of Inverkeithing.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: North Sec. Grave 122.
Cemetery: INVERKEITHING CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Inverkeithing Reply with quote

From booklet by David King - St Peter's Parish Church
"On Saturday 14th April 1923 at 3pm was the unveiling of Inverkeithing and District War Memorial by the Right Hon. The Earl of Elgin & Kinearding C.M.G. Chairman Provost Wyllie Inverkeithing.
The ceremony was conducted by Rev William Stephen B.D. of St Peter's Parish Church."

"On Sunday 8th January 1950 the Memorial Plaque to the men and women who gave their lives in World War II was unveiled by Provst James Fraser, Inverkeithing.
The ceremony was conducted by the Rev R.W. Anderson of St John's Church."
"Resited 1974 next to the Parish Church of St Peter"

From booklet by George McEwan - Notes on Parish Church of St Peter.
"In the centre of the south wall is the War Memorial window. This was unveiled by Earl of Elgin on Sunday 19th June 1921. Originally to commemorate those who fell in the First World War on 19th June 1949 a bronze plaque was fixed to the sill to commemorate those who fell in world War Two." Still to get photos as it is being renovated.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Inverkeithing Reply with quote

I wonder if this is the Arthur E Bryant?
Arthur Bryant general labourer and Army Pensioner died 27 May 1922 at 45 Preston Crescent Inverkeithing. He was age 45 and married to Janet Bryant ms Hutchison. Cause of death pulmonary tuberculosis and chronic in? nephritis.
Death certificate reference is 432/ - 25
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,

I am able to buy the booklet you mention by David King? Thankyou for posting the extracts.

I have noted the details on Arthur E Bryant - I would imagine he is very likely the man in question. I am now searching in ancestry for any more info.

Here is a snippet of information for one of the men commemorated on the memorial. David Vass was born in North Queensferry in about 1895 according to his records found on ancestry. In the 1901 Scottish Census, he was registered as living in Burntisland at 3 Binnend. He consequently emigrated to Australia and enlisted with the AIF on 8th April 1915. David seems to have suffered some ill health as he was several times admitted to hospital with cardiac disease. His record shows that after leaving Australia he was first based in Egypt until June 1916. After one of his spells in hospital he was transferred to the 55th AIF Infantry Battalion and sailed for Marseilles embarking on the 29/06/1916.

His casualty record shows that he was wounded in action in France on the 27/10/1916 with GSW to the face, arm and thigh. He was admitted to the 13th Military Hospital in Bolougne and his record states that he was dangerously ill from the 31/10/1916. He died from tetanus on the 3/11/1916 and is buried in Bolougne Eastern Cemetery. His memorial stone states his date of death as 2/11/1916.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Inverkeithing Reply with quote

Alex,
I know that the author David King died this year.
I think it would be best if you approached Inverkeithing library and asked them what is available.
I looked at David Vass's papers on Australia's national archives and noted the possessions they were sending back to his father who was down as next of kin - sad reading.
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Andrew Knapp was born in about 1896. There is some uncertainty as to where Andrew was born as it states on one of his military records that he was born in Cowglen, however, his records on ancestry state that he was born in Dunfermline.

He enlisted with the 16th Battalion Royal Scots in Edinburgh on the 6th January 1915. Andrew was 19, his attestation papers state his mother Agnes as being his next of kin and living in Church Street, Inverkeithing. His occupation was a crane driver. He was 5ft 4.5 inches tall and weighed 119 lbs. Andrew came from a large family having 3 brothers (Charles, William and John) and 6 sisters (Mary, Agnes, Sarah, Elizabeth, Isabella and Emma).

He was posted abroad on 8th January 1916 embarking from Southampton. Andrew’s conduct sheet shows that he had a couple of blemishes on his service record, being found guilty of instances of drunkenness and once being reported absent from his post. The punishment for the later being 5 days GB and the forfeit of 2 days pay.

Andrew was killed on the 29th or 30th November 1916 due to the collapse of a dugout. The dugout was located in the Bois Grenier sector of the front in the area of Moat Farm Avenue. On that night 6 men were manning the dugout, another soldier Pvt. J Yuill was also killed. A board of enquiry was convened to determine the cause. There is a 6-page account of this enquiry which is very difficult to read as it is handwritten. The result of the board of enquiry was that the collapse of the dugout was accidental.

I found a copy of Andrews will signed on 21st January 1916 declaring all his possessions would be given to his mother. The following items were returned by the Army to his mother; Pkt Bk, Rec Bk, Watch, Strap, Purse, Wallet, P Cards and a Photo.

Andrew is buried in Brewery Orchard Cemetery, Bois Grenier.

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Thomas James Allison was born in Edinburgh in about 1895. In the 1901 census he was registered as living at 7 Rosefield Avenue in Edinburgh with his mother and father (Jane and Samuel), 2 sisters (Jeanie and Mary) and his brother Samuel. Two ladies, Jane Shiells age 82 and Agnes Shiells age 52 were registered as living at the same address.

Thomas enlisted with the 9th Battalion The Royal Scots, in Inverkeithing, on the 14th June 1915. His military records show that his family lived in Keith Place. He was a grocer by trade, 5ft 5.5in. tall and weighed 112 lbs.

He embarked from Southampton on 12th October 1915, disembarking at Rouen on the 13th October. His active service record shows that he suffered from trench foot and was admitted to hospital on the 24th April 1916. He rejoined his unit on the 3rd May 1916. He had not been completely cured of this, as he was re-admitted to hospital again on the 14th June with the same complaint – and discharged back to his unit on the 21st June 1916.

Thomas was wounded in action during the Battle of the Somme on the 22nd July 1916, receiving GSW that caused a fractured skull and femur. He was admitted to the 1/2 High Field Ambulance stationed somewhere in France and died on the 23rd July 1916. He is buried in Dartmoor Cemetery, Becordel-Becourt in France. His gravestone records his date of death as 24th July 1916.

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Alexander Mckay was born in Inverkeithing on 9th November 1881. The 1891 census confirms that he was a scholar and living in Alma Street, Inverkeithing with his mother Elizabeth; brothers Robert and Andrew and his sister Jessie.

The 1901 census confirms that Alexander was still living in Alma Street with his mother; one brother and sister. He was working at this time as a stone mason.

Sometime between 1901 and 1915, he emigrated to Canada. His attestation papers show that he enlisted in the Canadian Infantry on the 3rd December 1915. He was living at 28 Hope Street, London in Ontario. He was single, and stated his occupation as a stone cutter. Alexander was 5ft 3.5 in. tall with blue eyes and dark brown hair.

He was serving with the 21st Battalion Canadian Infantry, in France, when he was killed on the 15th August 1917. He is buried in Aix-Noulette communal cemetery extension in Pas de Calais France.

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David Hutchison was born in Inverkeithing in about 1895. In the 1901 Scottish Census he was registered as living at No.3 Preston Crescent, Inverkeithing with his father Andrew and mother Janet. David had three older brothers (James, Andrew and John); one younger brother (George) and an older sister called Janet.

David enlisted in the Royal Scots on the 11th November 1914 at Glencourse Barracks in Edinburgh, his occupation was a hairdresser. His attestation papers state that he was 5ft 7in. tall. During the Battle of the Somme in early July 1916, David was serving with the 12th Battalion Royal Scots. They were part of 27 Brigade serving in the 9th Scottish Division. The battalion’s objective was to capture the village of Longueval following through the lead of their sister 11th Battalion Royal Scots. During the advance to their objective the battalion suffered severe shelling from the German artillery and suffered many casualties. David Hutchison’s body was never identified.

On the 9th April 1917 the army officially declared that David was dead by the completion and signing of the Acceptance of Death for Official Purposes form (army form B2090C). He is recorded as being killed on the 14th July 1916 and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.
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David Carmichael and John Rankine served together in the 5th Battalion Seaforth Highlanders. David was born in Govan in Glasgow in about 1892. In the 1901 census he was registered as living in Inverkeithing with his father David and mother Annie. David had two younger brothers Robert and Alex, and a younger sister Helen.

John was born in Leith in about 1889. In the 1901 census he was registered as living in Inverkeithing with his father Thomas and his mother Mary. John was the youngest in his family and had an older brother Andrew and an older sister Mary.

I have no evidence to show, but as both of them enlisted in the same regiment from the same town and have similar service numbers (David was Pvt. 4170 and John was Pvt. 4177) I believe they probably knew each other well and may have served in the same company.

Both John and David were serving with the Seaforths in November 1916 as part of 152 Brigade part of the 51st Highland Division. This division had the unfortunate name tag of ‘Harper’s Duds’. Having been given the name during the failed attacks on High Wood on the Somme in July/August 1916 – named after the Divisional Commander Major General Sir Montagu Harper.

On the morning of the 13th November 1916, the Seaforths were one of the lead battalions positioned in the British front line near Hawthorn Ridge close to Beaumont Hamel. They were flanked on the left by the 8th Argylls and on the right by the 6th Black Watch. Their objective was to capture the village of Beaumont Hamel – which had been an objective for the British on the 1st July 1916.

There are many accounts of this battle which members will be able to read elsewhere. Of note was the fact that the weather was described as atrocious, with heavy rain, thick mist and mud with a consistency of porridge. History records at the end of the day that the village of Beaumont Hamel (or more accurately its broken ruins) were in British hands. Unfortunately, neither David nor John lived long enough to witness their success. They were both killed in action on the day and are buried close together in Mailly Wood Cemetery, in Mailly-Maillet on the Somme.

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