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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Peter Jamieson Canadians Reply with quote

Peter Jamieson Pte 463309 47th Canadian Inf (Western Ontario Regt) B Coy b Cummingston 16/02/1888 e Vernon, BC Age 28 Died of Wounds F & F 11/11/1916 Son of Mr & Mrs Henry Jamieson, Balnault Farm, Crathie. Mother Eleanor Lamb. 1891 Census: Bloomfield Cottage, Monquitter. Fa Occ: Farm Servant. 1901 Census: 4 Gladstone Terrace, New Deer. Fa: Occ: Overseer (Farm). Husband of Mabel Snow Jamieson, 425 20th Ave East, Vancouver, BC. Occ: Tailor. Served app with A Joiner & Son. Albert Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0430 Plot I Row Q Grave 33 AJ 25-12-16 P3 AWJ 29-12-16 P2

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Lamont John Cpl Canadians Reply with quote

Lamont John Cpl 13254 5th Canadian Inf (Saskatchewan Regt) b Crathie 01/07/1876 Age 42 Killed in Action F & F 01-Sep-18 Son of William Lamont, Heath Cottage, Crathie. 1881 Census: Hamlet of Bridge of Bush. 1901 Census: Bridge of Bush. Occ: Farm Servant. Mother Annie. City Roll of Honour: 38 Commerce St; Occ:Teamster. (Widower) Upton Wood Cemetery, Hende-Court-Les-Carnicourt Fr 0688 Row A Grave 11 Balmoral Estate & City

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: McLean James Lead Seaman Reply with quote

McLean James Lead Seaman 237977 Royal Navy HMS Mersey 29 03-Jan-19 2nd son of James & Margaret McLean, 6 Horsburg Grove, Malvern, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. City Roll of Honour: 212 Rosemount Pl; Trinity MI L 56. Bucharest War Cemetery, Romania Special Plot Grave 4 City
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: McNearney A M Pte Gordons Reply with quote

Alexander Marr McNerney Pte 2725 7th Gordon Highlanders born Udny 01/05/1890 enlisted Banchory Age 26 Died of Wounds F & F 28/07/1916 Eldest son of Thomas & Annie (nee Marr) McNerney, 25 Richmond St; Aberdeen. (No 29). 1901 Census 220 Lumphanan En Dis 1 page 10 age 10. Husband of Annie Mitchell, Tyna-Baich, Crathie, Ballater, Aberdeenshire. Soldiers Effects: Widow: Annie. Occ: Gardener at Balmoral Castle. Service Returns: 118/AF 392. St Sever Cemetery, Rouen Fr 0145 Plot B Row 37 Grave 08 ADJ 04-08-16 Page 4 Balmoral Estate & City

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Robertson Edward P Pte Gordons Reply with quote

Robertson Edward Peter Pte 2729 7th Gordon Highlanders B Coy b Glenmuick e Banchory Age 28 Killed in Action F & F 13-Nov-16 Son of Peter & Martha Robertson, Craiglowrichan Cottage, Balmoral, Ballater, Aberdeenshire. 1901 Census 201 En Dis 5 Page 12 Entry 62 : Littleton: Father's Occ: Gamekeeper. AJ 30-11-16 RoH Y Ravine Cemetery, Beaumont-Hamel Fr 1490 Row A Grave 35

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Rose Charles Pte HLI Reply with quote

Rose Charles McHray (McRae) Pte 32624 1st Highland Light Infantry "A" Coy b Crathie e Aberdeen r Crathie Age 19 Died Mesopotamia 26-Aug-17 Son of Charles & Annie Rose, Garroch Cottage, Micras, Crathie, Ballater. 1901 Census 201 Glenmuick En Dis 1 Page 5 age 3 Father's Occ: General Labourer. Amara War Cemetery, Iraq Iraq Plot XII Row H Grave 9

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Skene Charles Dvr 173532 107th Royal Engineers Field Coy b Culsh, Tarland e Aberdeen Age 32 Died of Malaria Salonika 15-Sep-18 Youngest son of Mr & Mrs Skene, Francis Cottage, Ballater. 1901 Census Charles & Ann & Charles 14 217/2/2 Logie Coldstone. Husband of Betsy Gordon Skene, Polhollick, Ballater. Ten years in the service of HM The King at Balmoral & Birkhall Estates. 1906-16. AJ 2 Dec 15 Page 3: Eldest son. Karasouli Military Cemetery, Greece G 6 Row E Grave 1150 Ballater & Balmoral Estate

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Sutherland William T Pte Scottish Horse Reply with quote

Sutherland William T Pte 2351 F Sqdn Scottish Horse Yeomanry b Banchory e Crathie r Aberdeen Age 25 Died of Wounds At Sea 25-Nov-15 City Roll of Honour : Crathie, Ballater. For 5 years was a gardener at Abergeldie Castle, Ballater. Son of John & Annie Sutherland, 25 Hartington Rd; Aberdeen. AJ 3 Dec 15 Page 3: Eldest son. Helles Memorial, Turkey M. R. 4 Panel 21 Balmoral Estate & City

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Troup William P Pte Gordons Reply with quote

Troup William Pope Pte S/11224 1st Gordon Highlanders b Aberdeen e Aberdeen Age 25 Killed in Action F & F 18-Aug-16 Son of Mr & Mrs John Murray Troup, Greystone, Micras, Crathie, Ballater, Aberdeenshire. Native of Balmoral, Aberdeenshire. 1901 Census: Mother: Elizabeth Coutts. Crathie MI 81. Guillemont Road Cemetery, Guillemont Fr 0294 Plot XIV Row F Grave 10

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Battenberg Maurice Victor Donald Lt Reply with quote

Another name not listed on the memorial but born at Balmoral.

Battenberg, Maurice Victor Donald Lt Prince KCVO 1st King's Royal Rifle Corps b Balmoral 03/10/1891 Age 23 Killed in Action F & F 27-Oct-14 Son of Prince & Princess Henry of Battenberg. Educated Wellington & RMC Sandhurst. The Roll of Honour Vol I page 24: Photo. Grandson of Queen Victoria. He was the last Prince to be born in Scotland. Ypres Town Cemetery Extension B 058 Plot I Row B next to the gate Photos taken 1999 2001 2003 Nov
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PHOTO COURTESY OF PAT ANDERSON

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although this is in the other section because it was an estate memorial is this memorial used by the community around Crathie as their local war memorial?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Crathie Reply with quote

Here are the details of the six named. None are listed at Braemar. Two listings, private and community would seem reasonable


Name: ALEXANDER, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 706 Gen. Constr. Coy.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 07/08/1940
Service No: 1916741
Additional information: Son of Alexander James and Mary Helen Alexander; husband of Edna Alexander, of Ballater, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Grave 582.
Cemetery: SLIGO CEMETERY


Name: BRACKEN, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Able Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Galatea
Age: 21
Date of Death: 15/12/1941
Service No: D/JX 145507
Additional information: Son of Adolphus G. E. J. and Annie Bracken, of Crathie, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 46. Column 2.
Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL


Name: JOLLY, CHARLES
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Stoker 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Gloucester
Age: 28
Date of Death: 22/05/1941
Service No: D/KX 87869
Additional information: Son of Charles and Margaret Clark Jolly, of Ballater, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 53, Column 1.
Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL


Name: KERR, WILLIAM DONALD
Initials: W D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Pilot Officer
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Date of Death: 14/06/1942
Service No: 103063
Additional information: Son of Nicol and Margaret C. Kerr, of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire. B.Sc.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 248.
Memorial: ALAMEIN MEMORIAL


Name: LOW, ALEXANDER REID
Initials: A R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Pioneer Corps
Unit Text: 209 Coy.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 01/01/1943
Service No: 13073090
Additional information: Son of William Milne Low and Agnes Low, of Crathie, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. B. 5.
Cemetery: BONE WAR CEMETERY, ANNABA


Name: MILNE, ARCHIBALD CHARLES
Initials: A C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Leading Aircraftman
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 21
Date of Death: 28/03/1946
Service No: 1573916
Additional information: Son of Andrew Charles and Margaret Milne, of Crathie, Aberdeenshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Coll. grave 1. D. 4-19.
Cemetery: RANGOON WAR CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Crathie Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
Two listings, private and community would seem reasonable


Jim

Because this private memorial has now been 'taken over' by the community I will move this thread to the civic section but leave a link in this section, that would seem to be the best way round this.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found on the British Listed Building website that this war memorial was given Category B listed building status on 12th March this year

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-51498-balmoral-castle-war-memorial-crathie-and-

You can see the Historic Scotland database entry here:

http://hsewsf.sedsh.gov.uk/hslive/hsstart?P_HBNUM=51498


Both websites give this text:

Description:

Designed by Dr William Kelly, sculpted by Sir James Taggart, 1922. Panelled Inver granite slab-shaft with carved cross adorned with Celtic braid chip-carving and flanked by sword, dated, AD 1914-1919. Free-standing, horizontal pedestal table stretched in front on granite base, inscribed with names of dead and swastikas initialled GR on return to right. Base inscribed by Charles Macdonald Ltd of Aberdeen, with further names after 2nd World War, dated AD 1939-1945.


References:

The Royal Archives PP/Balmoral New Series/113, Balmoral/Box 145, GV/GVD, BAL/Box 58. Walker, Dictionary of Scottish Architects.

Notes:

B Group with Bridge Lodge, Entrance Gates, Gate Lodge and Gatepiers, Quadrant Walls and Lamp Standards.

Sited opposite Bridge Lodge and by Crathie Bridge. Explanatory board erected to right explains that His Majesty George V unveiled the Memorial on 3rd September 1922, dedicated to the memory of the men of the estates who gave their lives in the Great War. The names on the base to the horizontal pedestal are those of the men of Crathie who died in the 2nd World War. The swastika was a symbol of widespread ancient usage associated with the sun and its name comes from Sanskrit denoting well-being, fortune and luck. The symbol appeared on the bindings and title pages of many of Rudyard Kipling's works. The symbol had no sinister associations at the time the Memorial was designed. William Kelly was a former partner of William Smith in the later years of his practice. He was active in practice between 1886 and 1938 and provided war memorial designs for Aberdeen's Grammar School, King's College Chapel, and others in Birse, Dyce and Banff.
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