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Cauther Lassie



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: West Calder War Memorial Reply with quote

Hello Spoons (??)

Can't thank you enough, that's brilliant, and it's strange but I've researched the Brown's of Polbeth Farm (just up the road from me) and extensively the Sneddons who connect into several of my family lines and I have these laddies, but not where they ended up. Sure that there will be more in the local newspaper archive now that I've more of a clue.

Many thanks indeed.................... cheers .... Meg
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

West Calder War memorial and Rembrance Day 2012

Thanks for the link............ fingers crossed...... cheers ... Meg Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

well that worked not............. back to the drawing board....

cheers ... Meg
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cauther Lassie wrote:
Pte A Meek Pte Royal Scots – two possibles on CWGC – more research


(The Scotsman 21st February 1916)
"Alexander Meek, 12th Royal Scots, son of Mr James Meek, West Calder, has died of wounds in Germany"

CWGC
MEEK, ALEXANDER
Rank: Private
Service No: 21167
Date of Death: 17/11/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots 12th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 11.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: MEEK
Firstname: Alexander
Service Number: 21167
Date Death: 17/11/1915
Place of birth: West Calder
Other: 12th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Derek, I'd just found him on the 1911 census so identified him - that's 4 of my missing found today - brilliant cheers ... Meg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Connell/Connolly Reply with quote

Cauther Lassie wrote:
Pte J Connell Pte Royal Scots – Can’t Locate in Royal Scots


Possibly this man with the surname incorrectly reported, or recorded differently by the army?

(The Scotsman 17th July 1915)
"Private Connolly, 10th Royal Scots (cyclists), whose home is at Stoneyburn, has been killed in France. He was a Territorial in West Calder Company, and volunteered for foreign service. Along with another 24 cyclists, under Captain Wolfe, he was accepted, and sent to France."

CWGC
CONNELL, J
Rank: Private
Service No: 620
Date of Death: 06/07/1915
Regiment/Service: Army Cyclist Corps 4th Div. Cyclist Coy.
Panel Reference: Panel 56.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: CONNELL
Firstname: John
Service Number: 6053
Date Death: 06/07/1915
Place of birth: Airdrie
Other: latterly 620 Army Cyclist Corps.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Pte. George Smith Reply with quote

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Pte G Smith Pte Royal Warwickshire Regiment – too many G Smith’s in the Warwickshire Regiment to identify – more research required.


CWGC
SMITH, G
Rank: Private
Service No: 5673
Date of Death: 25/06/1916
Regiment/Service: Royal Warwickshire Regiment 2nd/8th Bn.
Grave Reference: II. C. 14.
Cemetery: LONGUENESSE (ST. OMER) SOUVENIR CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: SMITH
Firstname: George
Service Number: 5673
Date Death: 25/06/1916
Place of birth: Addiewell Midlothian
Other: 2/8th Bn., formerly 2304, R. Scots.
SNWM roll: SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death:F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Gnr. James Greenay/Trainer Reply with quote

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Pte J Greeney Pte RFA – No Record on CWGC


CWGC
GREENAY, J
Rank: Gunner
Service No: 97085
Date of Death: 05/08/1917
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery "D" Bty. 187th Bde.
Grave Reference: III. D. 306.
Cemetery: BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION, NORD
Additional Information: (Served as TRAINER).

SNWM
Surname: TRAINER
Firstname: James
Service Number: 97058
Date Death: 05/08/1917
Place of birth: West Calder Midlothian
SNWM roll: ROYAL HORSE AND ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY
Rank: Gnr
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Another Three of the List!! Reply with quote

Derek, this is wonderful,
A lovely surprise to come home to tonight another three of my list, that's seven in just two days!! Now why didn't you tell me long ago to post the ones I'm struggling with!! LOL.

Many thanks to the pair of you. Thought I'd have to wait until I retire next year and trawl the Regimental Museums to try and find some of them.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy from Me............... cheers .... Meg
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:59 am    Post subject: Pte. James Kerr Reply with quote

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Pte J Kerr MM Pte 2/10 Royal Scots MM – No J Kerr’s with MM in CWGC


He was awarded the M.M. London Gazette

I cannot find him in the war returns, so can't explain the difference in death dates.

CWGC
KERR, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 202541
Date of Death: 12/04/1918
Regiment/Service: Royal Warwickshire Regiment 2nd/6th Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 2 and 3.
Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: KERR
Firstname: James
Service Number: 2260
Date Death: 19/08/1918
Place of birth: Addiewell West Calder
Other: latterly 202541 2/6th Bn. The Royal Warwickshire Regiment.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS (LOTHIAN REGIMENT)
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumps again Derek.............thank you....... eight down!!

cheers ..... Meg

I've tracked some of the other missing using the 1911 census, but still can't positively identify them. Robert Blair and William Grandison lived next door to each other in the Harburn Rows, but again doesn't prove that they are the two on the memorial - got blisters from the digging, but you know from the Blacks of Breich Water that I'm stubborn!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas B. Gowans Merchant Navy: No Service Return Death listed in Scotlands People, Nothing on the CWGC Debt of Honour Register, nothing on Ancestry nor in the National Archives.
West Calder Cemetery:
LMO Robert R Gowans died 10th March 1976 aged 85 years. also his wives Annie Stevens died 25th June 1923 (aged 2. Jessie Bulloch died 18th Jan 1956 (aged 61). And their sons James died in infancy 1927 and Thomas lost at sea 1940
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I think this might be him:
SNWM
Surname BULLOCH
Firstname Thomas
Service number
Date of death 02/12/1940 .
Decoration
Place of birth West Calder.
Other M.V. "VICTOR ROSS".
SNWM roll MERCHANT NAVY & FISHING FLEETS (Part 1)
Rank 2nd Radio Officer
Theatre of death Unknown

CWGC has:
BULLOCK, THOMAS
Rank:Second Radio Officer
Date of Death:02/12/1940
Age:18
Regiment/Service:Merchant Navy
S.S. Victor Ross (London)
Panel ReferencePanel 114.
MemorialTOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great find Ken, always check for the mother's maiden name Smile

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Cauther Lassie



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Tom Gowans Reply with quote

Hello Ken, Paul & Derek,

You're quite right Ken, well done, I got his birth certificate and he's recorded as Thomas Bulloch he was born 1922 in West Calder and his parents married in 1926.

Another one done. This is brilliant. Only two more to find on the WW2 panel of the memorial.

Thanks to you, Paul and Derek for all your help, it's appreciated. 248 names on the memorial now only 17 left to find. William Grandison is now of the list as I found him today, and George Hardie whilst still on the list as I can't find a service entry but I've found him. His brother John is also on the memorial.

cheers ................. Meg
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 am    Post subject: Pte. James Irvine Reply with quote

Cauther Lassie wrote:
Pte J Irvine Pte KOSB – Can’t identify from CWGC


CWGC
IRVINE, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 25289
Date of Death: 03/05/1917
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers 6th Bn.
Panel Reference: Bay 6.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: IRVINE
Firstname: James
Service Number: 25289
Date Death: 03/05/1917
Place of birth: W Calder
Other: 6th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Pte
Theatre of death: F.& F.
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