The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

DerekR · Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:27 am Post subject:

Missing off the memorial but commemorated on the Liddesdale War Memorial:

TELFORD, RICHARD

Rank:
Rifleman
Service No:
23/2140
Date of Death:
15/09/1916
Age:
41
Regiment/Service:
New Zealand Rifle Brigade

1st Bn. 3rd
Panel Reference

Memorial
CATERPILLAR VALLEY (NEW ZEALAND) MEMORIAL

Additional Information:

Son of Mary Murray Telford, of Newcastleton, Roxburghshire, Scotland, and the late Mark Telford; husband of Alexina B. Robertson Telford, of Sandhead House, Sandhead, Wigtownshire, Scotland.
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Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject:

Richard Telford was a draper and was listed as a Sergeant in "E" Company of the 5th Reinforcements to the 1st Battalion when they left Wellington in April 1916. His next of kin is shown as his wife Mrs. A. B. Telford of the Schoolhouse, Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire. Richard and Alexina Robertson had married there in 1910 so it looks like she came home when her husband enlisted.
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Ken

Adam Brown · Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject:

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:13 pm Post subject:

You could well be right Adam. There is a Richard Telford (b.1875 - so the age matches) who sailed from Liverpool to Australia (Adelaide) in 1914. He appears to have been unaccompanied.
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Ken

Adam Brown · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject:

spoons · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:49 am Post subject:

Richard Telford is not listed in 'The faithful, the fallen and the forgotten', Julia MacDonald's recent book on the memorials of this area.

\Paul

DelBoy · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject:

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject:

DelBoy · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: Pte. William Kilgallen

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject:

Adam posted these details from SNWM on page 1:

McCULLOCH, David
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 12th (Ayr and Lanark Yeomanry) Bn.
Date of Death: 08/12/1917
Service No: 295353
Place of birth: Maybole, Ayrshire
Grave/Memorial Reference: X. 56.
Cemetery: JERUSALEM WAR CEMETERY, Israel
The AIY on the memorial would be the old title of this unit, The Ayrshire Imperial Yeomanry

In spite of the place of birth (Maybole) I suspect that this man is the same DAVE McCULLOCH who is named on the Whithorn Memorial.

The parents, John McCulloch and Annie Wither, married in Stoneykirk in 1878 and lived there (with lots of children) until the late 1900s.
In 1911 they had moved to Craig Farm Cottage near Whithorn where John was a shepherd. The older children, including David (18.) worked on the farm. The others were at school including the youngest Alexander (8.)
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Ken

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject:

Thanks Ken. We've certainly seen it many times before that men are listed on more tha one civic memorial. Perhaps some members of the extended McCulloch family still lived in the area after the First World War for David's name to be included?

Adam

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:30 pm Post subject:

Adam - you could well be correct. There are McCullochs under every bush in these parts.
Note too that the last name on the main panel of the memorial is Pte J. Wither - same as David McCulloch's mother.
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Ken