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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Another Italin name Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
A Bevento Piacentini commemorated - no sign SNWM/CWGC, Italian Forces ?


Similarly of Jiulio Marchetti

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: 2 Pllu brothers (& cousin?) who died in WW2 Reply with quote

Brothers Andrew and Cochrane Pllu.

Name: PLLU, ANDREW
Rank: Private
Service No: 7942336
Date of Death: 31/01/1945
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: Welch Regiment and No. 1 Commando
Grave Reference: 10. D. 10.
Cemetery: TAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Cochrane and Mary Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire.

Name: PLLU, COCHRANE
Rank: Able Seaman
Date of Death: 19/12/1940
Age: 20
Regiment/Service: Merchant Navy S.S. Amicus (Cardiff)
Panel Reference: Panel 7.
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Cochrane and Mary Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire.

Possibly a cousin of the two Pllu brothers?

Name: PLLU, JOHN BRANNON
Rank: Stoker 1st Class
Service No: C/KX 99266
Date of Death: 10/11/1942
Age: 23
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy H.M.S. Ibis
Panel Reference: 62, 2.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Edward and Margaret B. Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 brothers and a cousin?


PLLU, ANDREW
Rank:Private
Service No:7942336
Date of Death:31/01/1945
Age:22
Regiment/Service:Welch Regiment
and No. 1 Commando
Grave Reference10. D. 10.
CemeteryTAUKKYAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Cochrane and Mary Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire.


PLLU, COCHRANE
Rank:Able Seaman
Date of Death:19/12/1940
Age:20
Regiment/Service:Merchant Navy
S.S. Amicus (Cardiff)
Panel ReferencePanel 7.
MemorialTOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Cochrane and Mary Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire.


PLLU, JOHN BRANNON
Rank:Stoker 1st Class
Service No:C/KX 99266
Date of Death:10/11/1942
Age:23
Regiment/Service:Royal Navy
H.M.S. Ibis
Panel Reference62, 2.
MemorialCHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Edward and Margaret B. Pllu, of Saltcoats, Ayrshire
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you both posted that simultaneously!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! an eye catching surname indeed. Welsh?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Another Italin name Reply with quote

DelBoy wrote:
dhubthaigh wrote:
A Bevento Piacentini commemorated - no sign SNWM/CWGC, Italian Forces ?


Similarly of Jiulio Marchetti

Derek.


and CARLO CAVANI
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Ch.Stk. Robert Smith Reply with quote

WW1
Robert Smith

(Glasgow Herald 19th March 1915)
"Mrs Robert Smith, Saltcoats, has received an intimation from the Admiralty that her son Robert Smith has died of pneumonia at South Queensferry. He was Chief Stoker of H.M.S. Indefatigable , and had served for almost 22 years in the Navy."

CWGC
SMITH, R
Rank: Chief Stoker
Service No: 279220
Date of Death: 17/03/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy H.M.S. "Indefatigable."
Grave Reference: M. C. 268.
Cemetery: ARDROSSAN CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: SMITH
Firstname: Robert
Service Number: 279220
Date Death: 17/03/1915
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL NAVY
Rank: Chief Stoker
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:52 pm    Post subject: old postcard Reply with quote

The octagonal base surround for the garden has been removed most likely to make room for the ww2 addition to the memorial.





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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Duncan Taylor listed may be this man. His great-great niece has been in touch and informed us he was born in Saltcoats. The 4th Regt South African Infantry was the South African Scottish.

He is listed on the SNWM roll but no place of birth is given so his inclusion will be because of his unit.

TAYLOR, D
Rank: Private
Service No: 19064
Date of Death: 09/10/1918
Regiment/Service: South African Infantry, 4th Regt.
Grave Reference: B. 20.
Cemetery: BEAUREVOIR BRITISH CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He is listed on the SNWM roll but no place of birth is given so his inclusion will be because of his unit.


I don't think the 4th Regiment, South African Infantry could be classed as a Scottish Regiment by SNWM. If not born here, his parents could have been Scots
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try visting the SNWM and see the "Scots" listed under South African and CEF Rolls.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try visting the SNWM and see the "Scots" listed under South African and CEF Rolls.

I have, but why are they there?

"A member of the Armed Forces of the Crown or of the Merchant Navy who was either a Scotsman (i.e. born in Scotland or who had a Scottish born father or Mother) or served in a Scottish Regiment and was killed or died (except as a result of suicide) as a result of a wound, injury or disease sustained (a) in a theatre of operations for which a medal has been or is awarded; or (b) whilst on duty in aid of the Civil Power."

Scots parents ?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested to know of the Scottish family connection to these two men commemorated in the SNWM, who just so happened to serve in Highland units of the Canadian and South African armies.

Harold Ulmont Zwicker, 42nd Bn Canadian Expeditionary Force

Carel Hendrik Baumjrats Van Schalkwyk, 4th Regt South African Infantry

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have no idea, why not ask SNWM to check their records? Maybe the mother was Scots or they were both born here.
They could also clear up whether every member of the the Canadian Scottish, Royal Highlanders of Canada, etc, who fell during WW1 qualify for their Rolls.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harold Ulmont Zwicker (one of 35 Zwickers to enlist) was born in Caledonia, Nova Scotia and served with the Royal Highlanders of Canada (42nd CEF) I think we could count him as at least an honourary Scot??
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