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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Lochmaben Reply with quote

Lochmaben War Memorial, Dumfries and Galloway
Location: At South end of village at junction of Lockerbie Road (A709) and Annan Road
OS Ref: NY 083 822
Memorial Type: Statue
UKNIWM Ref: 6022 & 44178

A very youthful KOSB statue on this small memorial. Note he also has a stand collar rather than a stand and fall collar of the 1902 pattern tunic.

The light was quite poor so the photos of the names are not that good.





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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 44178

OS Map Ref: NY 083 823

There is also another memorial listed (UKNIWM Ref: 6022) at NY 000 820. This is certainly an incomplete or incorrect map reference and I think the whole entry may be spurious. If anyone knows anything about this entry (6022) could you please post details?

Meanwile, my attempts at the Lochmaben memorial where I think the light was a little kinder to me. Certainly not suggesting the photography is better, but perhaps inscriptions are more readable.





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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoons

I've already posted before that I'm more than happy for someone else to post better photos than mine for any memorial I've already put on the forum. In fact I've removed my photos of the name panels.

I've had a look at the UKNIWM and I think 6022 refers to this memorial. It's not unknown for there to be duplicates in the database. This is quite a low number and must have been one of the early submissions and the data is basic. If someone comes along a couple of years later with a different description then it is not surprising that someone in london would not recoginise it as the same memorial especially if the OS numbers don't match.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that's kind of what I though (duplicate) but I don't really know the area so would prefer someone who knows Lochmaben to confirm it.

I do like your photo of the closeup of the lads face looking straight into the camera, very artistic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surname DICKSON
Firstname William
Service Number 10172
Date Death 27/09/1915
Decoration
Place of birth Lochmaben Dumfriesshire
Other
SNWM roll SCOTS GUARDS
Rank Gdsn
Theatre of death F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont suppose anyone has photos of the War Graves in Lochmaben Cemetery do they? I am looking for a photo of the grave of Andrew Taylor Gibson - he was with 155th (Lanarkshire Yeomanry) Field Regiment RA in the Far East, appears to have been wounded was then transfered to the Pioneer Corps and was discharged, but he passed away in 1946 and is listed on the CWGC website so looks like his death was linked to his War service http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2715310
He isnt on the memorial, or the Church plaque posted on another thread which is a shame.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope nobody minds but here are a couple of more photos I thought were worth posting. The weather was good on my visit and the flower beds around the memorial were a credit to the local authority.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Lochmaben WM Reply with quote

The Lochmaben WM Committee selected Beattie & Co design from 40 other desgins. The design was by David J. Beattie, cost of 385, then additions. Other votes were for Scott & Rae, Glasgow 378; Dods & Son Dumfries 378; L. Harrison Glasgow 350; and Hope & Currie, Lockerbie 350. The site for the proposed WM will be in Victory Park and it was presented by Sir R.W. Buchanan Jardine, Bart of Castlemilk.
The WM was unveiled on 2/11/1921 by Lady Buchanan Jardine.
Information collected from Beattie & Co in July 2010.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Memorial Transcription Reply with quote

WW1

H.L.I.
Cpl. J. Graham
Sgt. J. Moffat
Pte. T.D.R. Tweedie

LAN.YEO.
Pte. J. Porteous

LON.SCOT.
Pte. J.J. Cockburn

R.A.F.
Pte. R. Shearer

R.A.S.C.
Pte. J.B. Grierson
Pte. J. Holmes

R.F.A.
Lt. J.G. McFadyen
Pte. G. Wright

R.G.A.
Gnr. G.McWilliam

R.S.F.
Pte. J. Parker
Pte. T. Wilson

R.N.D.
Pte. M. Johnstone

ROYAL SCOTS
Pte. E. Conchie
Pte. R. Kerr
Pte. J. Learmont

S.R.
Pte. W. Kerr
Pte. T. Smith
Pte. J. Wells

SCOTS GUARDS
Pte. W. Dickson
Pte. J.G. Gibson
Sgt. J.H. Henderson

S.AFRICANS
C.S.M. J. Tweedie

WEST YORKS.
Pte. R.L. Clarke

K.O.S.B.
Capt. R.N. Campbell
Pte. R. Carmichael
C.S.M. W.P. Crichton
Pte. J. Currie
Pte. M.G. Davidson
Pte. R. Easton
Lt. S. Farish
Pte. J. Farish
Pte. R. Gibson
Pte. R. Graham
Pte. D.J. Henderson
Lt. A.Y.P. Johnston
Pte. H. Little
Pte. J. McShane
Pte. J. Monie
Pte. J. Newlands
Lt. A.M. Sanders
Sgt. C. Thomason
Pte. J. Thomson
Pte. J. Ward
Sgt. J.T. Wells

BLACK WATCH
Pte. J. Graham
Sgt. J. Green
L-CPl. W. Renwick

CAMERONS
L-Cpl. W. Bell
L-Cpl. T. Edgar
Pte. J. Wilson

CANADIANS
Pte. J. Graham
Pte. P. McIntosh
Pte. W. Proudfoot

CHESHIRES
Pte. J. Baker

GORDONS
Pte. R. Baptie
Cpl. J. Burgess
Pte. K. Green
Sgt. D.J. Green
Pte. R. Henderson
Pte. J. Scott

GURKHAS
Lt. G.E.F. Campbell

WW2

Pte. D. Arnold, K.O.S.B.
L/Cpl. A. Blackstock, Black Watch
Pte. J. Carruthers, K.O.S.B.
Sgt. J.T. Cockburn, R.A.F. V.R.
L/Bdr. W.R. Cameron, R.A.
Sgt. D.J. Green, R.A.F.
Sgt. J. Holmes, R.A.F.
Dvr. W.L.R. Hunter, R.A.S.C.
Sgt. J. Halifax, R.A.
AC.2. S.K. Little, R.A.F.
Pte. Robertina Murray, A.T.S.
LAG/W. Jessie Richardson, W.A.A.F.
Pte. T.A. Rogerson, K.O.S.B.
Lieut. J.K.W. Sloan, Grenadier Guards
Pte. A. SMith, Royal Scots
Sgt. D. Turnbull, R.A.F.
A.B. M. Wilson, R.N.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot find the two women listed on the memorial for WW2 on CWGC or SNWM.

Pte. Robertina Murray, A.T.S.
LAG/W. Jessie Richardson, W.A.A.F.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pte John 'Jake' Parker was my grannies brother , killed at the Somme in 1916 .

He is named on the headstone erected for my great grandparents in Irongray Cemetry ,.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tam

Many thanks for the extra information, it's good to get extra information like that about a name.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:45 am    Post subject: Robert Baptie could he be remembered here? Reply with quote

Robert Baptie Cpl S/1600 8th Gordon Highlanders b Jedburgh Age 22 Died of illness Home 28/08/1916 3rd Son of Robert & Mary (nee Bookless) Baptie, Muirton, Tarland. Died of illness contracted on active service. Father's Occ : Gamekeeper. The Cromar War Memorial: Photo. Tarland MI 77. Roll of Honour for the Howe of Cromar: Muirton, Tarland: Photo. Voter's Roll 1918/19 : Robert & Mary, Gamekeeper's House. Tarland Parish Churchyard U. K. Tarland Grave 183 ADJ 29-08-16 RoH Cromar & Tarland
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