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DelBoy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:44 am    Post subject: Rev. Gilbert Wilkie Elliot Reply with quote

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ELLIOT, Rev. GILBERT W. Lance-Corporal. Machine Gun Corps. France. Killed in action 27th March, 1918.


(Glasgow Herald 3rd March 1919)
"Previously reported missing, now officially presumed killed on 27th March 1918 (or since), Lance-Corporal Gilbert W. Elliot M.A. Machine Gun Corps, minister of West United Free Church, Forfar."

Was aged 33 years when he died, is also remembered on St Giles ministers memorial in Edinburgh.

CWGC
Name: ELLIOTT, GILBERT WILKIE
Initials: G W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit Text: 12th Bn.
Date of Death: 27/03/1918
Service No: 97860
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 90 to 93.
Memorial: POZIERES MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: ELLIOTT
Firstname: Gilbert Wilkie
Service Number: 97860
Date Death: 27/03/1918
Other: formerly 45745, R. Scots.
SNWM roll: MACHINE GUN CORPS
Rank: L/Cpl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Rev. Gilbert Wilkie Elliot Reply with quote

DelBoy wrote:
Gilbert W. Elliot M.A. Machine Gun Corps, minister of West United Free Church, Forfar.[/i]"..he died, is also remembered on St Giles ministers memorial in Edinburgh.


And presumably on the West UF Church memorial. The West Kirk became St Margaret's in 1929 and still survives as a congegation.

See here for a shot of the memorial in situ. Unfortunately the names are unreadable.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Forfar War Memorial,a dominating look-out tower on the crest of Balmashanner,is 55 feet in height and 65 feet to the apex of the turret,and 17 feet 6inches square at the base.It was designed by Thomas R Soutar,architect,and built by Alexander Adamson junior.Thejoiner work was done by David Stewart.

From Forfar&District in the War 1914-1919
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Sgt William Martin Doig Reply with quote

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DOIG, WILLIAM. Sergeant. Black Watch (Reservist). France. Killed in action 1914.


Also listed on the Hamilton memorial.

(Glasgow Herald 8th Dec 1914)
"Sergeant Doig, 1st Battalion of the Black Watch, was killed in action on November 3. Previous to rejoining his regiment he was a Police Constable in Burnbank. He was a son of Sergeant Doig, of the Forfar Police."

CWGC
Name: DOIG, WILLIAM
Rank: Serjeant
Service No: 9277
Date of Death: 01/11/1914
Age: 30
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 37.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of James C. Doig, of 7, Queen St., Forfar.

SNWM
Surname: DOIG
Firstname: William
Service Number: 9277
Date Death: 01/11/1914
Place of birth: Forfar
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS)
Rank: Sgt
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renovations complete, just some landscaping work to be done now.

Courier article

Restored Balmashanner war memorial casts off its scaffolding

Forfar's historic Balmashanner war memorial has emerged from its winter scaffolding cloak following a 140,000 restoration project.
balmashanner monument

The C-listed monument has undergone the repairs after engineers found the condition of the sandstone monument to be poorer than originally thought.

The scheme has seen galvanised metal straps put in place to tie the bartizan tower to the main structure, built to a design by TR Soutar between 1920 and 1921 as Forfar's memorial to the fallen of the First World War.

''The main stabilisation and repointing works are now complete on site and the scaffolding has been taken down,'' an Angus Council spokesman said.

''This will allow the hard landscaping works to proceed at the base of the tower which will give Balmashanner monument a much improved setting and make access easier to this listed monument.

''All the works are anticipated to be finished in May with an overall cost of approximately 140,000 from Forfar Common Good.

''This restoration project has been carried out by a local builder and supervised by council officers to a high standard which will safeguard the monument for generations to come.''


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Pte. John Luke Reply with quote

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LUKE, JOHN. Private. Scots Guards. France. Killed in action March, 1915.

It's unclear why the month of death is wrong in the RoH, and the month the death was reported to his relatives is used?

(Glasgow Herald 4th March 1915)
"Private John Luke of the 2nd Scots Guards, a native of Forfar, has been reported to his relatives as having been killed in action on November 17. Private Luke was a member of the Edinburgh City Police when he enlisted immediately before the outbreak of war. He had only been seven days at the front when he was killed. He was 19 years of age."

CWGC
LUKE, JOHN
Rank: Private
Service No: 8997
Date of Death: 17/11/1914
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 1.
Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: LUKE
Firstname: John
Service Number: 8997
Date Death: 01/11/1914 (17/11/1914)
Place of birth: Forfar
SNWM roll: SCOTS GUARDS
Rank: Gdsn
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The First World War board from the memorial is now on public display in The Meffan Institute in Forfar, which is the town's museum & art gallery. I'll try to get pics on my next visit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Alexander Neill Bain - MA Reply with quote

Alexander Neill Bain 2nd Lt 7th Cameron Highlanders born Forfar Age 23 Killed in Action F & F 19-May-16 Son of Alexander Bain, Joiner & Annie (nee Neill) Bain, 34 Manor St; Forfar. 1901 Census. MA. Vermelles British Cemetery Fr 0423 Plot IV Row D Grave 21 Dundee Evening Telegraph 24-05 -16 Dundee Courier 25-05-16 Page 4. St Andrews Uni.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Bain MA Reply with quote

St Andrew's - see http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/warmemscot-post-49370.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: David Hunter RODGER, Black Watch. Reply with quote

CWGC
Name: RODGER, D H
Rank: Private
Service No.: 201829
Regiment: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Battalion: 4th/5th
Died: 27 September 1917
Buried: Hooge Crater Cemetery, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium
Grave Ref.: X.G.9

Notes: This was my grandmother's older brother.
Born: 20 May 1898 at Hunter Cottage, Wylie Street, Forfar.
Full name: David Hunter RODGER.
Known as: Hunter RODGER (his father was also a David, and his grandfather before him).
Son of: David RODGER (1872-1935), Painter and Decorator, Forfar, and Mary CRAIK (1873-1954).
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject: Cpl. Alexander Mitchell [not war dead] Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
FORFAR & DISTRICT IN THE WAR: 1914-1919.

'Roll of Honour'
MITCHELL, ALEXANDER. Corporal. Black Watch. France. Killed in action September, 1916. Awarded Distinguished Conduct Medal.
D.C.M. - 2431 Private Alexander Mitchell, 1st Batt. Royal Highlanders.
For conspicuous gallantry on 22nd October, 1914, when he conveyed a wounded man in a barrow across the fields to an ambulance, whilst exposed to heavy machine gun and rifle fire, and then returned to his section still under fire. Was previously brought to notice for his gallant conduct.


It appears he was not killed during the war and died in Dundee in 1931...

thread at GWF
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: John Beattie Stewart Reply with quote

Hi All
I am researching the men/boys from my church in Stirling who fell in the Great War. One of them, John Beattie Stewart was born in Forfar in 1876. I stumbled across this site through the power of Google and found him on the Forfar Roll of Honour as transcribed above. There are also the names David, Donald, George and William Stewart; John had brothers with these names. I've discovered Donald was his youngest brother but none of the online resources I've checked can confirm/deny any connections with the other names. Would the book referred to, (Forfar and district in the Great War) mention anything about siblings serving or being casualties? Or would Angus Archives have local newspapers that would give that info?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to confirm, is this the man?

Surname STEWART
Forename John
Rank Pte
Service number 4/8388
Place of birth Forfar
Date of death 25 September 1915
Theatre of death F&F
Decoration
SNWM roll THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Other detail 2nd Bn.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Ken.
That is "my" John Stewart. He was killed at the Battle of Loos along with two other men from the church.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Columba - I've sent you a PM with a bit of detail but just to add here;
William A Stewart married Clementina Beattie in 1868 in Forfar. You would need to check birth details but it looks like John Beattie Stewart was their son.
If that's so then Donald Stewart was a brother.
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