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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Barrhead WM Inscription Reply with quote

Barrhead, Cowan Park War Memorial
Inscription and Additional Details
UKNIWM Ref No 44698

The Memorial is set in Cowan Park , Barrhead facing Darnley Road.

Grid Ref NS 509598

The memorial is made of grey stone. There is a sloping square section plinth and block which sit on three broad low steps. The edges are rough dressed but all 4 faces of the block are polished and inscribed with the names of the fallen from WW1. The main face has a coat of arms above the Inscription ‘IN MEMORIAM’. The names of the fallen are in two columns on each face. Above the names of the fallen at the top edge of each face is a name of country or continent of battle from WW1. These are: FRANCE; FLANDERS; THE SEAS; RUSSIA; ASIA; AFRICA; TURKEY; ITALY. The cross above the block is carved on three sides with Celtic knot work. The cross has a wheel and there is a smaller cross carved into the lowest of the panels on the front face of the shaft. Overall height of the memorial is 6 to 8m

Behind the WW1 memorial is a low wall with the names of the fallen from WW2 on two panels on either side of the wall and the main inscription is on the centre of the wall.


Main Inscription Front face

IN MEMORIAM
1914 – 1918

Names of the fallen arranged alphabetically by surname. Surname and forename or initials only are given. There are several names at the bottom of each column that are on the plinth. There are not strictly alphabetically arranged so I assume were added later. The names are on all 4 sides in two columns per panel

Main Face
LH Column

ADAIR, WILLIAM S.
AGNEW, SAMUEL
AIRD, ALEXANDER
AIRSTON, ROBERT P.
ALLAN, ALEXANDER
ANDERSON, HENRY
ANDERSON, JAMES
ANDERSON, JAMES A.
ANDERSON, MATTHEW
ANDERSON, ROBERT
ANDERSON, THOMAS
ANDERSON, WILLIAM
ANDERSON, WILLIAM M.
AYTON, JOHN
BAIRD, JAMES
BAIRD, JOHN
BARR, DANIEL
BARRON, THOMAS G
BAXTER, R. WALLACE
BAYNE, EDWARD
BEATON, JAMES
BERRY, DAVID
BERRY, PATRICK
BROWN, JAMES
BUCHANAN, WILLIAM
BURNS, ALEXANDER


RH Column

CAIRNDUFF, ROBERT P.
CALDWELL, WILLIAM
CAMERON, ALEXANDER
CAMERON, RODERICK
CAMERON, THOMAS
CAMPBELL, ANDREW
CAMPBELL, ARCHIBALD S.
CAMPBELL, DAVID
CAMPBELL, HUGH
CAMPBELL, JAMES
CARMICHAEL, DAVID W.
CARROLL, JAMES
CARROLL, LAWRENCE
CARROLL, THOMAS
CARROLL, WILLIAM
CHAPMAN, JOSEPH
CHAPMAN, WILLIAM McN.
CHISHOLM, DUNCAN
CHRISTIE, CHARLES
CHRISTIE, JAMES
CHRISTIE, JOHN
CLARK, ALEXANDER
COUBROUGH, ALEXANDER
COUBROUGH, WILLIAM
COULTER, JAMES
CRAWFORD, WILLIAM
CUNNINGHAM, ROBERT


Side Panel 1
LH Column

CURRAN, HENRY
DAKERS, ROBERT
DOCHERTY, DANIEL
DOCHERTY, JAMES
DOCHERTY, MICHAEL
DOIG, JAMES T.
DONALD, JOHN A.
DONNELLY, JOHN
DONNELLY, MATTHEW
DOUGLAS, JAMES
DOW, JAMES
DUFFIN, CHARLES
DUNN, JOHN
DUNN, JAMES
DUNN, PATRICK
DUNLOP, JAMES
ELLINGHAM, JAMES
ELLINGHAM, GEORGE
ELLIS, ROBERT
EWING, ARCHIE D.
FARMER, JOHN
FAULDS, WILLIAM
FERGUSON, THOMAS
FLEMING, WILLIAM
FLYNN, JAMES
FORSYTH, JAMES
FRASER, JOHN
FULTON, RICHARD
GALLAGHER, JOSEPH
GALLAGHER, PATRICK
GALLAGHER, PATRICK
GALLAGHER, ROBERT
GALBRAITH, WILLIAM
GAILLEY, ANDREW
GEBBIE, JOHN
GEMMELL, JOHN
GRANT, JOHN
GRAY, GEORGE
GALLIGHAN, PATRICK
HOLMES, JAMES


RH Column

GEMMELL, THOMAS
GILMOUR, ALEXANDER B.
GILMOUR, ALEXANDER C.
GOLDING, JOHN
GOODWIN, ARTHUR
GORMLIE, GAVIN C.
GORMLIE, JOHN H.
GORMLIE, THOMAS C.
GRAHAM, ARCHIBALD C.
GRAHAM, HUGH
GRAHAM, JOHN
GRAHAM, JAMES
GRIER, WILLIAM
HAGGERTY, JAMES
HAGGERTY, WILLIAM
HALFORD, HUGH
HALFORD, JAMES
HANLON, JOHN
HANNAH, THOMAS
HARMON, FRED
HARRISON, ALEXANDER
HARVEY, DAVID
HARVIE, JAMES
HAY, ALEXANDER
HENDERSON, JAMES J.
HIGGINS, COLLIN
HIGHET, ALEXANDER
HILL, NICHOLAS
HILL, THOMAS
HOLDER, DAVID
HOUSTON, ALEXANDER S.
HOUSTON, HUGH
HUNTER, GEORGE
IRVINE, CHARLES
IRVINE, DAVID
IRVINE, WALTER
GRAY, JAMES
GRAY, PETER
HOLMES, JOHN
JOHNSTONE, HUGH H.


Side Panel 2
LH Column

JACK, SAMUEL
JARDINE, JOHN
JARDINE, JOHN T.
JOHNSTON, SAMUEL
JONES, WILLIAM
KEAN, ANDREW McC
KEAN, CHARLES
KELLY, JAMES
KENNEDY, ADAM J.
KINCAID, FRANK
KING, JOHN
KING, ROBERT
KINLOGUE, PATRICK
KIRKWOOD, ARCHIBALD
LAFFERTY, ALEXANDER
LAFFERTY, MARTIN
LAMB, ROBERT
LAMBIE, WILLIAM
LAWNS, JOHN
LAWNS, JOHN
LECKIE, JOHN
LECKIE, PETER
LECKIE, PETER
LEGGAT, HUGH
LINDSAY, ARTHUR
LOGAN, ALEXANDER
LOGAN, MATTHEW
LYON, ALEXANDER
LYON, ROBERT
LYNCH, PHILIP
MACFADYEN, JAMES C.
MACFARLANE, REBECCA H.
MACINDOE, ANDREW B.
MACQUARRIE, ANDREW
MACQUARRIE, JAMES F.
MALTMAN, JOHN D.
MAXWELL, JOSEPH
MIDDLETON, JOHN
MURRAY JOHN
McCONNACHIE, JAMES
MILLAR, JOHN


RH Column

MESS, SAMUEL E.C.
MILLAR, DAVID R.
MILLER, DAVID J.
MILLER, JAMES
MITCHELL, JAMES
MITCHELL, WILLIAM
MOORE, LEVI T.
MONAGHAN, JAMES R.
MULLIGAN, JAMES
MUNRO, JOHN
MURRAY, RICHARD
MYRON, ADAM
McAINSH, JOHN
McALLISTER DANIEL
McAULEY, WILLIAM J.
McBRIAR, JAMES
McBRIDE, THOMAS
MCCABE, JAMES
MCCAIG, WILLIAM
MCCALLUM, THOMAS
MCCLUSKIE, EDWARD McC.
MCCONNELL, THOMAS
MCCULLION, HUGH
MCCULLOCH, ARTHUR
MCDONALD, THOMAS A.
MCDONOUGH, MICHAEL
MCDOUGALL, JOHN L.
MCGLINCHEY, PATRICK
MCGORAN, THOMAS
MCGREGOR, ALBERT
MCINTYRE, JOHN
MCINTYRE, JOHN C.
MCKAY, ALEXANDER
MCKAY, LOUIS J.
MCKENNA, JOHN
MCKENZIE, JAMES
McCONNACHIE, ROBERT
McCREADY, DANIEL
McCREADY, DUGALD
McCREADY, PETER
MACFARLANE, JAMES


Side Panel 3.
LH Column

MCKINLAY, ARCHIBALD Y.
MCLEAN, JOHN
MCLEAN, GEORGE
MCLEAN, MATTHEW
MCLEAN, WILLIAM MCF.
MCLELLAN, JOHN
MCMILLAN, JOHN
MCNEILL, LACHLAN C.
MCQUADE, HENRY
MCQUATTER, HENRY
MCWHIRTER, ALEXR. MCA.
MARSHALL, MATT. B.
NORTHCOTE, CHARLES
OSBORNE, DAVID
OWENS, WILLIAM
O'CONNER, DANIEL
O'HARA, EDWARD
O'ROURKE, THOMAS
PATON, RICHARD
PATTISON, HUGH MCI
PATTISON, WILLIAM
PEACOCK, WILLIAM
POWRIE, THOMAS
PRENTICE, WILLIAM
RANKIN, JAMES H.
RANKIN, WILLIAM H.
RENNIE, JAMES
REYNOLDS, JOHN
RITCHIE, ROBERT
ROBERTSON, JOHN
ROSS, JOHN F.
ROSS, WILLIAM P.
ROWAND, DUNCAN C.
ROWAND, ROBERT
SCANLAN, JOSEPH
SCOUSE, ROBERT
RAE, SAMUEL
SIMPSON, PETER
PATON, PETER


RH Column

SHANKS, JOHN A.G.
SHARP, JOHN D. MCK.
SNEDDON, WILLIAM
SIMPSON, JOSEPH
SIMPSON, WILLIAM A.
SMITH, ALLEN
SMITH, JAMES
SMITH, THOMAS
SMYTH, PHILIP
STEWART, ARCHIBALD
STEWART, JAMES
STEWART, W. MARSHALL
STEWART, THOMAS L. G.
STIRLING, WILLIAM A.
STIRRAT, ROBERT
STRAIN, THOMAS
TAIT, FRANCIS
TEMPLETON, WILLIAM
THOMSON, HUGH
THOMSON, JOHN
TURNBULL, J.ROY
TURNBULL, JOHN L.
TURNBULL, THOMAS L.
VANCE, WILLIAM
WHAM, GEORGE R.
WHYTE, KENNETH
WHYTE, ROBERT
WILLIAMSON, ROBERT R.
WILSON, FRANK D.
WILSON, JAMES
WILSON, JAMES
WILSON, WILLIAM A.
WOODSEDE, WILLIAM
YOUNG, JOHN
YOUNG, WILLIAM
YUILL, JOHN
WALKER, JAMES
WHITE, JOHN
WALTER WHITE
WHYTE, GEORGE A.


WW2 Inscription on low wall between end memorials with names of fallen

THE CITIZENS OF BARRHEAD
RECORD WITH PRIDE AND GRATEFUL REMEMBRANCE
THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES
IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR
1939-1945


Names of the fallen arranged alphabetically by surname. Surname and forename or initials only are given. There two flanking panels, one on either side of the low wall. The names are on two columns per panel


LH Panel
LH Column

ABBOTT, HAROLD T.
ANDERSON, ROBERT S.
BECKETT, WILLIAM
BLACK, ROBERT R.
BOLGER, PATRICK
BOYD, ALEXANDER Y.
BRADBURN, JOHN H
BRAIDWOOD, ALEXANDER
BROMLEY, THOMAS
BURLES, ALFRED P.
CAIRNEY, ROBERT
CAMERON, DONALD
CAMPBELL, DAVID A.
CAMPBELL, JAMES
CARLTON, CHARLES
CARSLAW, ALBERT
CHRISTIE, THOMAS
COYNE, JAMES
DEVAIN, ALEXANDER
DUNSHEATH, WILLIAM J.


RH Column

DICKIE, BENJAMIN C.
DICKSON, MATTHEW C.
DOCHERTY, JOHN
EWING, ROBERT C.
FAULDS, GEORGE
GILBERT, JAMES H.
HAWTHORN, JOHN
HENDERSON, THOMAS H. P.
HENRY, PETER
HERRIES, DAVID
HUGHES, JOHN J.
JOHNSTONE, RICHARD B.
KERNAHAN, JOHN
KERR, CHARLES D.
LAFFERTY, JAMES A.
LAWSON, JAMES
LEITCH, JOHN
MALTMAN, ANDREW D.
MAVER, STANLEY
MITCHELL, WILLIAM
LINDSAY, JAMES


RH Panel
LH Column

MAXWELL, JOSEPH M.
MITCHELL, JOHN
MONTGOMERY, FRED. W.
MOORE, WILLIAM
MOORE, WILIAM,
MULLIGAN, JAMES
MULHOLLAND, JOHN
MUNRO, JOHN
MCBRIDE, JOHN
MCCULLOCH, ARTHUR J.
MCCULLOCH, JOHN
MCGILL, ALEXANDER
MCGUIRE, JOHN
MCHUGH, ALEXANDER
MCKEE, THOMAS J.
MCKELLAR, HUGH
MCLAUGHLAN, DANIEL W.
MCLAUGHLAN, JOHN
MCLAUGHLAN, JOHN
TAYLOR, HAMISH
YOUNG, JOHN B.

RH Column


MCLEISH, ROBERT
OVENS, THOMAS
PATERSON, THOMAS C.
PORTER, WILLIAM
RAMSAY, WILLIAM
RATCLIFFE, FRED W.
REGAN, RAYMOND J.
SCOTT, ADAM
SHIELDS, ROBERT
SMITH, JAMES
SMITH, JAMES
SPENCER, WILLIAM
SWORD, THOMAS B.
THOMSON, ALLAN
WALKLETT, THOMAS L.
WATERS, JOHN J.
WATSON, MATTHEW
WILSON, JOHN H. C.
WYLLIE, DAVID E.
TIMPANY, GEORGE
TIMPANY, PETER
PATON, MALCOLM H.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The memorial was slightly altered last year to record the names of three men from barrhead who lost their lives while serving since the second world war.

The following text is taken from the Paisley Daily Express of 5th November 2008

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THE names of three soldiers who died on active service around 30 years ago have been added to a town’s war memorial.

The families of Privates John Hunter and William Forsyth, both of the Scots Guards, and Private Douglas McKelvie, of the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, saw their loved ones honoured at a moving ceremony at the memorial to the fallen of two World Wars and later conflicts at Cowan Park, Barrhead.

Private Hunter, who was 17, and Private Forsyth, who was 18, died in the notorious Guildford pub bombings of August 1974, while Private McKelvie, who was 20, died in a road accident while on duty in South Armagh in August 1979.

All three were from Barrhead.

A piper played a lament as the ceremony unfolded. It was conducted by the Rev Maureen Leitch, of Bourock Church, who offered words of comfort to the proud but still brokenhearted families of the three dead men.

Also present were members of the men’s regiments, along with old servicemen and women who are members of the British Legion.

In all, around 90 people attended the event which heard an address from Councillor Alex Mackie, Provost of East Renfrewshire, who paid tribute to the courage and sacrifice of Privates Hunter, Forsyth and McKelvie.
The war memorial at Cowan Park has a long list of the names of those killed in war and other conflicts.

And, after consultation with families, it was decided to add the names of those who died in more recent conflicts.

A spokesman for East Renfrewshire Council said: “The ceremony went very well and was very well attended by families and representatives of the regiments, along with the British Legion.

“It was obviously a very moving experience for the families even after all this time.”

The rededication of the war memorial took place on Saturday, November 1, the first day of the season of remembrance, which culminates on Armistice Day, on November 11.

Hundreds will remember the fallen on Remembrance Sunday on November 9.

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I have photos of the affected part of the memorial and will add these in the next few days
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The changes relate to the screen wall originally constructed to commemorate the dead of WW2.

The dates 1939-45 have been added above the names on the end sections.

This has allowed a change of function of the middle section, the wording of which has been changed to relate to those "fallen in other conflicts since 1945", with the names to the three men added.

Although the wording change has been skillfully done, as you'll see in my picture, some aspects of the former wording (the dates 1939 -1945) can still be seen faintly.







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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the way that has been done and it is great that we have a record of the before and after

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name James M Wade has also been added to the 1939-45 panels. I wonder if this was done at the same time as these other names were added?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope this is the right place to post this. Adam James Kennedy is listed on the memorial in Barrhead.

My grandmother had a copy of "In Flanders Fields", and it's the first poem I ever read. Her uncle, Adam Kennedy, died in the First Battle of Ypres in 1914.

He was a member of the First Gordon Highlanders.

She kept the poem along with this picture of Adam.








In Memory of Serjeant ADAM JAMES KENNEDY

424, 1st Bn., Gordon Highlanders
who died age 26 on 17 November 1914
Son of John and Margaret Kennedy, of 26, Stanley Rd., Saltcoats, Ayrshire; husband of Isabella Robertson. Born at Govan, Glasgow.
Remembered with honour
POPERINGHE OLD MILITARY CEMETERY

http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries/poperingeold.htm

Adam is also listed on the City Roll of Honour in Aberdeen


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a cracking photo. Adam looks every inch a soldier.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too many things bring a lump to my throat, but this one did.

Thank you very much for posting it

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still carrying out research but I believe that I have found 3 Gt. Uncles who did not survive the First World War.
They were all born in Barrhead but do not appear on the Barrhead memorial.
Who would I contact to have this omission possibly remedied.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John

Every memorial committee had different criteria for the inclusion of names on a memorial. Just because someone was born in Barrhead it doesn't mean they should automatically be listed on this memorial.

Do you know where your Great Uncles were living in 1914? If they were in Barrhead then there has been an omission here but if they moved away from Barrhead soon after they were born then there may have been no connection to the town during the war years and they may be listed elsewhere.

I take it you've identified them in the CWGC database. can you post the details here so we can help.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Barrhead Memorial Reply with quote

Hi Adam, sorry for not replying sooner.
I take your point about those lads not being on the Barrhead Memorial because the families may have moved away. I will try and find out their addresses circa 1914-1918 but the 1911 census is not due out for another year so it may take me some time. One clue I do have is that the 2 Redmonds had a younger brother born at Burncrooks? Strathblane in 1914 so that might suggest that the family were living there then. I still have to chase up the Brooks family though.
I did receive an e-mail from a source that informed me that the names do NOT appear on ANY war memorial in the UK. Since then I have visited Edinburgh Castle and found Alexander Redmond (machine gun corps) registered in one of the books of remembrance.
I'll let you know more when I access it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi John

Would be interested to see the full names and dates of death to see what we can find out about them.

I cannot imagine how someone could think that the names are not on any memorial in the UK. There is no resource which could conceivably know that. In scotland we are slowly building such a resource here but in the rest of UK there is much less that has been done. Even here we have newly recorded memorials posted virtually every day, so even if a man is not on any currently listed Scottish memorial today, it is still worth checking back from time to time.

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