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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Missing Names Reply with quote

Hi Paul, I believe I got an e-mail from the site www.wargraves.org.uk who informed me that the names did not appear on any war memorial anywhere in the UK.
I realise of course that no-one has recorded ALL memorials yet. Maybe they meant that they do not appear yet.
I'll dig out what info I have so far and post here on this thread shortly.
Thanking anyone in anticipation for any further information.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Barrhead Born Reply with quote

Alexander Redmond (Private) Machine Gun Corps died 01/09/1918 as a POW in Glageon camp.
Service No. 83541.

James Redmond (Lance Corporal) Irish Guards killed in action 16/03/1917
Service No. 6445.

John Brooks (Lance Corporal) Cameron Highlanders deceased 03/05/1917
Service No. S/18260.

I believe the above to be my Gt Uncles who perished in the First World War, but can find no evidence that they are remembered anywhere except for Alexander who is in the books at Edinburgh Castle.
Cheers for any further info.
(I do have the info from the CWGC site)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John

All three are commemorated in the Rolls of Honour at the Scottish National War Memorial. You can look up their entries online here:

http://www.snwm.org/website/frames.html

BROOKS, John
Service Number S/18260
Date Death 03/05/1917
Place of birth Glasgow
Other 5th Bn.
SNWM roll THE QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Rank L/Cpl
Theatre of death F.& F.

REDMOND, James
Service Number 6445
Date Death 16/03/1917
Decoration
Place of birth
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS (Not Irish Regiments!)
Rank L/Cpl
Theatre of death F.& F.

REDMOND, Alexander
Service Number 83541.
Date Death 01/09/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Barrhead Renfrew
Other formerly 27325 K.O.S.B.
SNWM roll MACHINE GUN CORPS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.

Listed twice, In the KOSB Roll and the MGC Roll

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other places to look.

According to SDGW, Alexander had a residence of Glasgow and James had a residence of Lanark, John was resident in Paisley. Worth checking the civic and church memorials in those areas.

Paisley's roll of honour (with names) is a book in Paisley library. James is not listed on the Lanark memorial. The Glasgow ROH is in the City Chambers.

None are listed in the Glasgow Evening Times Roll of Honour.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CWGC details confirm their NOK did not provide additional information when requested. The reasons for not returning the forms are many and varied.


Name: BROOKS, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 03/05/1917
Service No: S/18260
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 9.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL



Name: REDMOND
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Irish Guards
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 16/03/1917
Service No: 6445
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 10.
Cemetery: SAILLY-SAILLISEL BRITISH CEMETERY



Name: REDMOND
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit Text: 50th Bn.
Date of Death: 01/09/1918
Service No: 83541
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. N. 10.
Cemetery: GLAGEON COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Thank you Reply with quote

Hi, I've been away for a while and now have just seen these posts. Thank you all very much for this info on my uncles, it is very much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas Bromley aged 22 died whilst a prisoner of the Japanese.
He was aboard the Suez Maru along with 640 other POW's which was sunk by the US submarine Bonefish. Although approximately 250 men managed to get out of the hold, they were subsequently massacred by the Japanese escort vessel.

Name: BROMLEY, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age: 22
Date of Death: 29/11/1943
Service No: 1368857
Additional information: Son of James Bromley, and of Emily E. Bromley, of Barrhead, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 428.
Memorial: SINGAPORE MEMORIAL

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Spr. William Anderson Stirling Reply with quote

alexmaclennan wrote:
STIRLING, WILLIAM A.


(Glasgow Herald 22nd of November 1919)
"In remembrance of Sapper William Anderson Stirling, No:256324 Royal Engineers, eldest son of Geo. Stirling, 4 Graham Street, Barrhead, who died at the 34th Casualty Clearing Station, France, on 23rd November, 1918. Interred at Solesmes."

Name: STIRLING, WILLIAM ANDERSON
Initials: W A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 40th M.A.B. Sect.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 23/11/1918
Service No: 268324
Additional information: Son of George and Annie M. A. Stirling, of Barrhead, Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 17.
Cemetery: SOLESMES BRITISH CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Maltman Father & Son WW1 & WW2 Reply with quote

Unusually a fathers death in the previous war is detailed in the CWGC additional info for the son who perished in the Second.

(Glasgow Herald 22nd September 1942)
"Intimation has been received by Mrs May Maltman, of Gateside, Barrhead, that her husband, First Class Stoker Andrew Douglas Maltman, R.N. is missing, presumed killed. He is 29 and joined the Navy in June of last year."

Name: MALTMAN, ANDREW DOUGLAS
Initials: A D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Stoker 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Eridge.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 29/08/1942
Service No: P/KX 133240
Additional information: Son of Pte. John Maltman, Tank Corps (killed in action in Belgium, 22nd August, 1917), and of Elizabeth Maltman of Barrhead, Renfrewshire; husband of Mary B. Maltman, of Neilston, Renfrewshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 3. F. 2.
Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (HADRA) WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY

And his father who died in WW1.

Name: MALTMAN
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Tank Corps
Unit Text: "C" Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 22/08/1917
Service No: 76680
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Janet Maltman, of Gateside; husband of Elizabeth Maltman, of Gateside, Barrhead, Renfrewshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. B. 21.
Cemetery: POTIJZE CHATEAU GROUNDS CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Maltman Father & Son WW1 & WW2 Reply with quote

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Unusually a fathers death in the previous war is detailed in the CWGC additional info for the son who perished in the Second.


Derek

The Additional Information details are provided to CWGC by the NOK. It is they who wanted record to read as it is now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Archibald Stewart Campbell M.M. Reply with quote

alexmaclennan wrote:
CAMPBELL, ARCHIBALD S.


(Glasgow Herald 12th of April 1918)
"Campbell-
Died of wounds, in field ambulance, 21st March, Pte. Archie Stewart M.M., Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, aged 22 years, second and dearly beloved son of Mr & Mrs Charles Campbell, Glen Villa, Paisley Road, Barrhead, late of Lennoxtown."


Name: CAMPBELL
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st/8th Bn.
Date of Death: 21/03/1918
Service No: 303001
Awards: M M (Military Medal)
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sp. Mem. A. 9. Buried near this spot.
Cemetery: MARTEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY, ATTILLY

SNWM
Surname: CAMPBELL
Firstname: Archibald
Service Number: 303001
Date Death: 21/03/1918
Decoration: M.M.
Place of birth: Campsie Stirlingshire
Other: 1/8th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
It has been a while since my last visit to the site.
2010 saw me visit France where in 2 cemeteries I found my Gt Uncle Redmond brothers, Alexander and James.
(Not sure about the Brooks Gt uncle yet).

Photos and details to follow when I sort myself out.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photos from my trip to France.

Sailly-Saillisel Cemetery










Glageon Cemetery









I hope I've done them justice.

Will try to find Gt Uncle Brooks resting-place next year.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Sgt. Adam James Kennedy Reply with quote

johntru9j wrote:
I hope this is the right place to post this. Adam James Kennedy is listed on the memorial in Barrhead.

My grandmother had a copy of "In Flanders Fields", and it's the first poem I ever read. Her uncle, Adam Kennedy, died in the First Battle of Ypres in 1914. He was a member of the First Gordon Highlanders.
She kept the poem along with this picture of Adam.





In Memory of Serjeant ADAM JAMES KENNEDY

424, 1st Bn., Gordon Highlanders
who died age 26 on 17 November 1914
Son of John and Margaret Kennedy, of 26, Stanley Rd., Saltcoats, Ayrshire; husband of Isabella Robertson. Born at Govan, Glasgow.
Remembered with honour
POPERINGHE OLD MILITARY CEMETERY

http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries/poperingeold.htm

Adam is also listed on the City Roll of Honour in Aberdeen


(Glasgow Herald 15th December 1914)
"Intimation has been received by Mrs Kennedy, 37 Graham Street, Barrhead, of the death on November 17 of her son, Sergeant Adam Kennedy, of the 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders. Sergeant Kennedy had been shot a few days earlier, and died of his wounds. He belonged to a soldier family, his father having the bronze medal for the Kabul to Kandahar march under Lord Roberts, whilst his grandfather fought in the Crimea and an earlier progenitor was with Wellington at Waterloo."

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Pte. William Woodside Reply with quote

WW1
Woodsede, William (Woodside?)

(Glasgow Herald 10th March 1915)
"Official intimation has been received by his parents of the death in action in France on February 15 of Piper William Woodside, of the 1st Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, a son of Mr Peter Woodside, Barrhead. Piper Woodside had been seven years in the Army, five of those being spent in India, whence he came with the first Indian contingent for France."

CWGC
WOODSIDE, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Service No: 10768
Date of Death: 16/02/1915
Age: 26
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of Peter Woodside, of 47, Kilburn St., Barrhead, Glasgow.

SNWM
Surname: WOODSIDE
Firstname: William
Service Number: 10768
Date Death: 16/02/1915
Place of birth: Paisley Renfrewshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS
Rank: Pte
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