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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: MONTROSE (T) Reply with quote

Montrose - Angus District

The Montrose war memorial is a tall grey granite pedestal standing on three low steps and surmounted by a bronze allegorical figurative sculpture of 'Victory' by the Montrose born sculptor Henry Snell Gamley. The commemoration and names of the WWI dead are on bronze tablet set into the four faces of the pedestal. The three granite steps at the base of the pedestal have been extended into wings at the rear of the monument to form a plinth with two granite panels flanking the memorial bearing the names of the WWII dead. Bronze wreaths are set on the rear face of these panels.
The monument stands in the park next to Hope Paton Bowling Green.
The memorial is unusual in that the consistency in the way in which the names are listed varies considerably. Most men have their christian names listed, some have only initials for no apparent reason (i.e. not lack of space). A couple of the men on the WWI panels have their service listed while the rest have rank only. The WWII names are listed according to year of death but the letter type is difficult with little or no differentiation between the letters C and G, and the abbreviations used for the services and regiments leaving some uncertainties.






WWII PANELS:






WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Adam Alexander L. Corporal
Adams Alexander Private
Adamson G. Private
Aitken Andrew Company Sergeant Major
Aitken E.L.D. Trooper
Alexander Arthur Gunner
Alexander George Lance Corporal
Alexander Gordon Private
Allan Alfred Private
Anderson W. Lance Corporal
Anderson William Private
Andrews C. Merchant Navy Seaman
Annat William Private
Arbuthnott William S.M.
Bain J. Corporal
Baird Robert Corporal
Balfour David D. Gunner
Barker Walter Private
Beaton Adam Private
Beaton William Lance Corporal
Beattie Francis Corporal
Beattie Frederick Corporal
Beedie John Private
Bell J.M. Private
Birse Andrew Private
Birse William Private
Black James Sapper
Black John Major Corporal
Black William Private
Bowman Charles I. Lance Corporal
Brown Andrew Lance Corporal
Brown John Petty Officer First Class
Brown Robert McM. Private
Bruce Harry Corporal
Burgess David Private
Burgess Robert Private
Burgess Samuel Private
Burgess W.D. Wireless Operator
Burleigh John Private
Burness John Lance Corporal
Burton Andrew E. Corporal
Cairns Peter Able Seaman
Campbell John T. Corporal
Cargill James Private
Carr William Private
Chalmers J. Major D.C.M. M.C.
Charles Joseph Corporal
Christie D. Sapper
Christie George Private
Christie William Private
Clark A.S. Duncan Second Lieutenant
Clark Alexander Corporal
Clark David Gunner
Clarke Alexander Second Lieutenant
Cobb David Gunner
Cobb Frank Private
Cobb William Private
Cooper David Private
Corothie E. Wireless Operator
Corrall William Private
Coupar David L. Corporal
Coutts Arthur G. Private
Craik W.C. Private
Crane C. Merchant Navy Captain
Cranston James Sergeant
Croll Alexander Private
Crowe Albert E. Sergeant
Crowe W.S. Sergeant
Cruickshanks J. MREG Captain
Cuthbert Charles L. Corporal
Cuthbert Harry Private
Dakers Albert Private
Dakers George Corporal
Dakers Robert Private
Davidson George Company Sergeant Major
Davidson George Gunner
Davidson Harold I. Private
Davidson James Lance Corporal
Davidson John Private
Davidson Ronald R. Captain
Davidson William T. Private
Davie Alexander Private
Davie J.C. Lance Corporal M.M. Croix De Guerre
Dawson Alexander Lance Corporal
Dempster David W. Private
Dickson Arthur Lieutenant Colonel
Dobbie James W. Private
Douglas Alexander Minesweeper
Douglas Francis Second Lieutenant
Douglas Gordon Lance Corporal
Douglas William Stoker
Dryden James Private
Duguid J.S. Private
Duncan A. Leading Seaman
Duncan Andrew B. Sergeant
Duncan David P. Private
Duncan Edward Gunner
Duncan Frank Private
Duncan J.A. Gordon Second Lieutenant
Duncan Ronald Private
Duncan William Sergeant
Dunn Martin Second Lieutenant
Dunn Wilfred Private
Dunn William Lance Corporal
Durward William J. Private
Dye Robert Private M.M.
Easson Andrew Private
Easson William Private
Edwards D.L. Lance Corporal
Emslie David Private
Emslie David Sergeant
Fairweather James B. Sapper
Falconer J.P. Second Lieutenant
Falconer Robert Private
Fawns David Private
Fenton Douglas A. Captain
Ferrier Robert Private
Findlater George Private
Findlater J.P. Private
Findlay G. Corporal
Findlay James B. Private
Findlay Robert H.S. Private
Finney George Private
Fitchett Benjamin Wireless Telegraphist
Fitchett John Private
Forbes John Private
Forbes John Canadians Private
Forbes William Private
Forrest John G. Private
Forsyth W.A. Captain
Fotheringham Edward Corporal
Fraser R. Lance Corporal
Fyfe George Gunner
Gardyne Charles G. Private
Gaudie John L. Private
Gemlo D. Scottish Rifles Private
Gemlo D. Black Watch Private
Gemlo D.W. Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Private
Gibb Alexander C. Private
Gibb George M. Sergeant
Glennie John Sapper
Graham Walter McH. Sergeant
Grassie J.A.A. Lieutenant
Gray J.D. Trumpeter
Grewar Alexander Private
Hall W.M. Bombadier
Hammond James Corporal M.M.
Hammond William Private
Hampton D.M. Private
Hampton John E. Lance Corporal
Hanney George Private
Harris James Sergeant M.M.
Hemsley Peter Private
Henderson Duncan McL. Private
Hendry Hugh Private
Herschell Allan Driver
Hogg Thomas Bombadier
Howie Arthur N. Piper
Hunter David L. Gunner
Hutcheon David Private
Inverarity D. Private
Jamieson Neil B. Private
Japp Bertram W. Private
Johnston Arthur H. Lance Corporal
Johnston George Bombadier
Keiller Alexander Sergeant
Keiller James Private
Keir John Private
Kemlo John Private
Kerr E.M. Private
Key Douglas Lieutenant
Kydd John Private
Lamb George Corporal
Lamond Charles Lance Corporal
Lamond William Private
Latto David C. Able Seaman
Lauder George Private
Lawson Henry PO Petty Officer?
Livingstone Thomas Sergeant
Low George Private
Low John S. Lance Corporal
Low William Private
Lowson William Gunner
Lyall David C. Private
MacDonald James D. Seaman
MacDonald William Able Seaman
MacFie Robert A. Second Lieutenant
MacKintosh Ewen Trooper
Mands Frank Private
Marjoribanks John Sergeant
Marnie George Leading Hand
McIntosh David Sergeant M.M.
McIntosh J. Lance Corporal
McKenzie Alexander Sapper
McKenzie Fenton Trooper
McKenzie George S.S. Private
McKenzie William D. Private
McLean Ralph H. Private S/Pte
Mearns Angus H. Captain
Middleton James E. Private
Milne A.L. Corporal
Milne Alexander Private
Milne Alexander Private
Milne B.R. Captain D.C.M. BAR M.C.
Milne James M. Private
Milne Joseph Private
Milne Joseph Cameron Private
Milne Sydney S.B. Lieutenant D.C.M.
Milne William Private
Milne William B. Sapper
Mitchell Alexander Private
Mitchell D.J. Private
Mitchell David Gunner
Mitchell James Corporal
Mitchell James Lieutenant
Mitchell R.E. Sergeant
Mitchell Robert Private
Moig David Private
Moir Kenneth Pirie Private
Moir W.D. Lance Corporal
Molesworth E.K. Captain
Montague Jamie Lance Corporal M.M.
Moody D.W.K. Royal Navy Surgeon M.D.
Moore James Private
Moore Robert Private
Morrison James Private
Morrison William Lance Corporal
Moug William Private
Munro R. McM. RRC Sister
Murray David Private
Murray John Graham Private
Murray Robert Company Sergeant Major
Murray William Corporal
Nicol Alexander A. Private
Nicol James Sergeant
Ogg John Private
Oliphant David Private
Pairman Adam A. Private
Paterson William Private
Paton Alexander Private
Paton James Private
Pert William Private
Petrie George Petty Officer
Philips David Private
Piggins Frederick G. Private
Pinnington Edward Lieutenant
Prout William Second Lieutenant
Rae A. Gunner
Rattray Allan Private
Reid George Private
Reid Thomas Corporal
Reid William Private
Rennie John Private
Richardson Thomas N. Private
Riddoch Francis Private
Ripley William E.S. Lance Corporal
Ritchie Ralph E. Private
Robb H.A.P. Gunner
Robertson David Acting Petty Officer
Robertson John Lance Corporal
Rodgers William Lance Corporal
Ross Alexander Private
Ross Charles C. Private
Ross David Private
Russell William Private
Ryre David Ross Private
Saunders E.J. Sergeant
Scott Bruce A. Sapper
Scott David A. Private
Scott Robert P. Private
Shand Adam Sergeant
Shand Alexander Second Lieutenant
Shand David Private
Shearer Robert Private
Shepherd James S. Private
Shepherd Norman W. Bombadier
Sheret Alexander C. Gunner
Sheret William R. Private
Sherrie William Private
Silver Edward Lieutenant
Sim J. Private
Skene George Lance Corporal
Small John C. Lance Corporal
Smart Albert Edwin Private
Smith Alexander Private
Smith John Sapper
Smith R.T. Sergeant M.M.
Smith Robert M. Private
Spence James Sergeant
Spence James H. Sergeant
Steele W.H. Private
Stephen A.P. Private
Stephen E. Private
Stephens George A. Gunner
Stewart Alexander N. Royal Naval Reserve
Stewart Frederick Private
Stewart John Piper Lance Corporal
Stewart R.S.D. COMS
Stone Arthur W. L.Sergeant
Stormont W.M. Signaller
Sunter Andrew Private
Taggart Charles B. Private
Tailyour H.F.T. Renny Lieutenant
Tavendale Charles K. Private
Tavendale James L.Sergeant
Tavendale James D. Corporal
Tawse Peter Private
Tevendale John Private
Thompson John M. Private
Thomson A. Private
Thomson Francis Private
Thomson Robert C. Private
Thomson William Lance Corporal
Towns Alexander Private
Towns James Private
Towns Joss Private
Tulloch Arthur G. Private
Tulloch William Private
Tyrie D.P. Sergeant D.C.M.
Valentine A.G. Acting Battalion Sergeant Major
Valentine Adam Lance Corporal
Valentine Gilbert Private
Valentine James Private
Valentine James Sergeant
Valentine Joseph Lance Corporal
Waldie David Private
Walker H.J. Private
Walker James L. Private
Warden James G. Private
Wark Henry Sergeant
Watt D.J. Sapper
Watt David A. Sergeant
Watt J. Gunner
Webster Alexander Private
Webster Joseph Private
Webster Joseph Sergeant D.C.M.
Whimster Thomas F. Second Lieutenant
Whyte A. Private
Whyte Charles Private
Whyte George Private
Whyte R. Private
Williams Reuben E. Sergeant
Wood Charles Corporal
Young Edward Private
Young John Sergeant



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
Adam David Royal Navy Died 1944
Alexander Robert K. Royal Sigs. Died 1946
Anderson James D. Royal Navy Died 1944
Anderson John McE. Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Died 1943
Arbuthnott Mrs. Jean H. Died 1941
Arbuthnott Mrs. Susan P.B.F. Died 1941
Arbuthnott Susan M. Died 1941
Bain John S. Merchant Navy Died 1941
Barr Lawrence Royal Air Force Died 1944
Beaton James T. Royal Artillery Died 1942
Beattie Robert K. Died 1940
Bell Richard Royal Air Force Died 1942
Birse Albert Gordon Highlanders Died 1942
Boyek James M. Royal Artillery Died 1942
Brown Harry M. A.A.C. Died 1943
Christieson Robert J. Royal Navy Died 1944
Clark George Royal Artillery Died 1943
Clark James A. Merchant Navy Died 1940
Clark John H. Royal Scots Died 1941
Clark Mrs. Helen D.L. Died 1941
Collins James A. Royal Air Force Died 1942
Coull Alastair J.C. S.C. Died 1945
Coull David Hong Kong VOC Died 1941
Cove Wallace G.M.S. C.M.S.? Died 1945
Crane Frank Royal Artillery Died 1941
Crow Henry F. Royal Corps of Signals Died 1940
Cruickshanks Arthur H. Merchant Navy Died 1942
Duncan George H. Black Watch Died 1944
Edward Robert J.S. Royal Artillery Died 1944
Ferrier Norman Black Watch Died 1944
Finney Beatrice L. Died 1941
Fotheringham John Royal Air Force Died 1941
Fraser William N. R.S. Died 1943
Gordon Ronald Gordon Highlanders Died 1944
Green Edward G. Merchant Navy Died 1943
Hampton William A. A.A. MAR. R.A. Died 1942
Haynes Percy Royal Air Force Died 1944
Hurst Royce D.L.I. Died 1942
Keir George Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Died 1943
Kinoness George Royal Artillery Died 1943
Knox John A. Royal Navy Died 1941
Liddle Christopher Black Watch Died 1946
Liddle John Black Watch Died 1944
Lindsay John J. Scots Greys Died 1941
Lumsden Charles H.J.M. A.I.F. Died 1945
Martin James Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1944
Martin Robert Black Watch Died 1944
McAndrew Jack Black Watch Died 1942
McIntosh Hugh A. Royal Army Service Corps Died 1942
McLennan Alexander C. SASK L I Died 1939
Middleton James M. Black Watch Died 1944
Milne Alexander W. K.S.L.I. Died 1944
Milne Henry Worcester Regiment Died 1945
Milne Owen S. Royal Air Force Died 1944
Milne Robert Argyle & Sutherland Highlanders Died 1944
Mitchell George Royal Artillery Died 1942
Mitchell John C. Merchant Navy
Moncur Francis C. Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Died 1941
Moncur James Died 1944
Morgan Edward M. A.A. MAR. R.A. Died 1942
Mowatt Alexander D. Royal Air Force Died 1941
Murray Arthur M. Royal Naval Air Service Died 1941
Murray Edwin Merchant Navy Died 1945
Murray James Black Watch Died 1942
Murray Robert Black Watch Died 1944
Murray Robert Royal Army Service Corps Died 1944
Myles William Royal Air Force Died 1941
Nairn William Royal Naval Reserve Died 1940
Nicoll Elizabeth J.W. Died 1940
North Ronald L. Royal Artillery Died 1941
Parker Percival J. Royal Air Force Died 1944
Paterson Alan Royal Air Force Died 1943
Paterson Duncan McC. Black Watch Died 1942
Paton Charles Black Watch Died 1944
Paton Donald C. Royal Naval Reserve Died 1940
Pert James A. Cameronians Died 1943
Prain William Royal Army Service Corps Died 1940
Rennie Alexander King's Own Scottish Borderers Died 1944
Riddock George S. Black Watch Died 1942
Robb David N. Royal Air Force Died 1942
Roberts Peter Royal Navy Died 1943
Robertson William B. Black Watch Died 1942
Robertson William M. Royal Air Force Died 1943
Russell Alfred R. R. Berks Died 1944
Scott James R.S. Died 1944
Shand David W. Merchant Navy Died 1943
Shanks James L. Royal Army Medical Corps Died 1943
Sharp Duncan Royal Artillery Died 1942
Shepherd Douglas C. Merchant Navy Died 1942
Sheridan George McC. Royal Air Force Died 1943
Simpson John Died 1940
Simpson John M. Royal Air Force Died 1944
Skinner John S.C. Died 1944
Skinner Malcolm P. Royal Air Force Died 1939
Smith Alexander G. Royal Air Force Died 1940
Spark William C. Royal Air Force Died 1945
Spink Charles Royal Artillery Died 1942
Spink Norman Merchant Navy Died 1944
Stephen James Merchant Navy Died 1943
Stewart Charles J. Lovat Scouts Died 1945
Stott James B. Royal Corps of Signals Died 1942
Taggart Ada A. Merchant Navy Died 1942
Tavendale Douglas H. S.G. Died 1944
Taylor John Merchant Navy Died 1941
Walker Robert Black Watch Died 1943
Walker Samuel T. King's Own Scottish Borderers Died 1945
Walker William M. R.TKS Died 1944
Watson William H. Royal Naval Air Service Died 1942
Watt Charles B. Royal Air Force Died 1944
West Stanley Royal Navy Died 1944
Williamson Peter J.A. MX Died 1942
Wilson Mrs. Jane L. Died 1940
Young Alfred Black Watch Died 1941
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the Great War names:

MEARNS, ANGUS HUGHES
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Unit Text: 57th Sqdn.
Secondary Regiment: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Secondary Unit Text: and 9th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 24/06/1917
Additional information: Son of Alexander Ashton Murray Mearns and Annie Webster Hughes Mearns, of Links, Montrose, Forfarshire. A Student of Medicine at St. Andrew's University and passed his first professional examination for his degrees. Joined the University O.T.C. in Aug., 1913.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: ARRAS FLYING SERVICES MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The four females who died in 1941 were all victims of a bomb strike on the house they were in at 7 Thomson Terrace. I can only assume it was from bombs meant for the RAF airbase nearby.

Allan Arbuthnott had the sad job of registering his wife 57 year old wife Susan and foster daughter 37 year old Beatrice Finney's deaths, while at the same time his son William Arbuthnott was left to register the loss of his wife 27 year old Jean Arbuthnott and 1 year old daughter Susan M. Arbuthnott.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visited this memorial and found there are some additions since the previous picture were taken.





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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last name will be Constable L A Mills, Palestine Police Force. Palestine 1948.

Many British Police oficers, quite a numbr Scottish, are buried in CWGC cemteries in Israel and the ones killed in 1946 and early 1947 can be found in the CWGC registers.

I believe quite a few British Palestinian Policemen were ex Royal Irish Constabulary men who moved from Ireland to Palestine in 1922.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Armed Forces Memorial:

Surname: McDONALD
Forenames/Initials: John Donovan Robb
Rank: Lt
Service: Army
Service Number: 397977
Regiment/Corps: RAOC
Place of Birth/Home Town: Craig, Nr Montrose, Angus
Date of Birth: 18 October 1928
Age: 22
Date of Death: 18 May 1951
Cemetery Name: Kranji Military
Cemetery Address: Singapore
Grave Section: 1
Grave Row: C
Grave Number: 8
Included on Armed Forces Memorial: Yes
Included on Roll of Honour: Yes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've mentioned this before but it is fascinating to compare some of Jim's 'then' photographs with now. As Delboy's recent pics illustrate there have been names added, landscaping & renovation work done. Some have deteriorated somewhat or had little done to them however.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Montrose angus Reply with quote

The Canadian soldier said to be the "CRUCIFIED SOLDIER of Ypres in WW1) : Sgt 27286 Harry Band , 15th Bn canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment ) aged 29 years death date shown on CWGC index as being 24 April 1915 (listed on the Ypres Menin gate Memorial panel 18 -24-26-30) was born in MONTROSE . his Attestation papers show him to have been born in what he said was Montrose Kincardineshire Scotland born on 12 August 1885 and a linkman and single with previous service in the 1st Bn Forfar Volunteers 3 years and 3 years in the 48th Highlanders in canada .

He is not listed on this war memorial but I found him on other indexes such as Roll of Honours . .

just for info

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious - in the 1942 section: Peter J.A. Williamson - MX

Who he? What's MX?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenneth Morrison wrote:
Just curious - in the 1942 section: Peter J.A. Williamson - MX

Who he? What's MX?


I can't find a Peter J A Williamson, or any other combination of his initials killed in WWII.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mx can stand for aircraft maintenance so perhaps he was a civilian involved in this work?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen civilian war workers listed on other memorials so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case here. Perhaps an other option might be he worked in a shipyard?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They didn't build ships at Montrose but there was an airfield - RAF Montrose on the outskirts of the town, so he probably worked there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Montrose

http://www.rafmontrose.org.uk/

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Gunner Duncan Sharp died as a POW of the Japanese when the transport ship Lisbon Maru left Hong Kong for Shanghai with 1816 prisoners on board. It was sunk by American submarine USS Grouper.
820 of the prisoners died in the sinking, more later from wounds and illness associated with the event.

Name: SHARP, DUNCAN
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 12 Coast Regt.
Age: 21
Date of Death: between 01/10/1942 and 02/10/1942
Service No: 900140
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Sharp, of Montrose, Angus, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Column 6.
Memorial: SAI WAN MEMORIAL

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gourdongirl wrote:
Kenneth Morrison wrote:
Just curious - in the 1942 section: Peter J.A. Williamson - MX

Who he? What's MX?


I can't find a Peter J A Williamson, or any other combination of his initials killed in WWII.

Shona


Peter J A Williamson age 24 Death registered DecQ 1942 At Willesden, Middlesex.
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