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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have now confirmed that the 3 Troddens listed were in fact brothers. See http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=3370&mforum=scottishwargraves#3370 where you can see their family gravestone.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And their photographs:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited the Devil's Porridge exhibition today and one of the attendants on duty told me that it had been agreed to add a name to the Annan memorial. He did not know if this had yet been done. I passed by and checked against my previous photos, nothing yet added. If I hear anything more (especially the name) I will make a further post. The name to be added is either WW1 or WW2.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited the Devil's Porridge exhibition today where they kindly allowed me to take a couple of photos of a copy of the program for the unveiling of Annan memorial. It is a large booklet so at least you know where to visit if you want to read it to check out the other details.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Dec 2006 jamiemcginlay posted a photo of the sculptor working on the statue. Following information received, I spoke today to the proprietor of Mackies shop in Annan and he told me that the soldier posing as a model is his grandfather; Sgt John Mackie KOSB (number 240637).

In the Annan museum they confirmed that a name has been added to this memorial but I spent 15 minutes studying the memorial and photos and cannot see any name since I last photographed it in Jan 2007 or indeed since the original photos were posted. I will phone the museum and try and get more info.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul (or anyone)

If you are down that way again for research can you get a few close-up photographs of the statue. I wouldn't mind seeing it in detail now we know who the model was.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards to the newly added name on the memorial, I finally managed to identify him. The name added is for WW2, S Thomson of the Royal Armoured Corps. The difficulty was because they have put the name alongside an existing one rather than just being added to the list. However I wonder if they have not made a mistake with the initial? There is only one S Thomson RAC listed on the CWGC website for WW2 and he was from Fife with no obvious connection to Annan, but there is this man who is not otherwise listed on the Annan Memorial:

Name: THOMSON, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Reconnaissance Corps, R.A.C.
Unit Text: 52nd Regt.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 19/02/1945
Service No: 3188899
Additional information: Son of Jeanie Lees, of Annan, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 14.
Cemetery: MILSBEEK WAR CEMETERY

What does anyone think?



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At last I managed to get some close-ups of the statue.

Also recently completed works at the base of the memorial - new paving stones and now illuminations. That means I will have to go back another time Shocked this time at night to show it lit up Evil or Very Mad









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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding Samuel/Thomas Thomson - the same name appears on the Dalbeattie War Memorial

CPL. SAMUEL THOMSON, REC.CRPS.

The only Corporal Thomson of the Reconnaissance Corps listed by CWGC and SNWM is:
Thomas Thomson, Corporal (3188899) 52nd Regiment, Reconnaissance Corps, Royal Armoured Corps. Born Kirkcudbrightshire. Age 25.
Son of Jeannie Lees of Annan.
Thought to be:
Samuel McNairn Thomson - Born 1919 at Dalbeattie.

Killed in Action 19 February 1945. Buried in Milsbeek War Cemetery, Holland. Also remembered (as Samuel) on the Memorial at St. Peter's RC Church in Dalbeattie.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Robert Squince McCulloch Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
WW1
R. SCOTS
McCULLOCH, R.S.


(Glasgow Herald 26th of February 1917)
"Died in St. Johns Brigade Hospital, from gunshot wounds, Lance Corporal Robert S. McCulloch, H.L.I. (transferred Royal Scots) aged 21 years, beloved and only son of Mr & Mrs McCulloch, Cadzow, Seaforth Avenue, Annan."

Name: McCULLOCH, ROBERT SQUINCE
Initials: R S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 16th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 21/02/1917
Service No: 40907
Additional information: Son of John and Jean McCulloch, of "Cadzow" Seaforth Avenue, Annan, Dumfriesshire. Native of Annan.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XXI. H. 9.
Cemetery: ETAPLES MILITARY CEMETERY


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: SCOTT
Initials: Edward Williamson
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 14th Bn.
Date of Death: 27/11/1917
Service No: 13632
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVI. G. 13.
Cemetery: CABARET-ROUGE BRITISH CEMETERY, SOUCHEZ
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

update sent to UKNIWM re the addition of name in 2009.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Cpl. Robert Johntone Jardine Reply with quote

A man who is on the memorial even though he never made it to France.

WW1
JARDINE , R J , King's Own Scottish Borderers

(Glasgow Herald 18th Aug 1914)
"News was received at Annan yesterday morning of the sudden death of one of the territorials, Corporal Robert Jardine. The Rev. J.C. Thomson received a telegram from Captain Cunningham, who is in charge of the Annan company of the 5th K.O.S.B., to the effect that Corporal Jardine, one of his company, had died that morning from heart failure, and requesting him to notify the dead mans parents. Corporal Jardine was the second youngest son of Baillie Jardine, Annan, and has two brothers in the same company. He was 22 years of age, and had just terminated his apprenticeship as a joiner."

CWGC
Name: JARDINE, R J
Rank: Corporal
Service No: 384
Date of Death: 17/08/1914
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers 5th Bn.
Grave Reference: Border. E. 3.
Cemetery: ANNAN CEMETERY

SNWM
Surname: JARDINE
Firstname: Robert Johnstone
Service Number: 384
Date Death: 17/08/1914
Place of birth: Annan Dumfries
Other: 5th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank: Cpl


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:35 am    Post subject: Pte. Robert Douglas Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
WW1
R.S.F.(?)
DOUGLAS R


According to his entry in the Glasgow Herald and the below CWGC & SNWM entries he served in the Border Regiment, not the Royal Scots Fusiliers.
He's also listed as in the R.S.F. on the Newbie works (Cochran & Co.) memorial, with a nice portrait image.

(Glasgow Herald 22nd December 1914)
"Official intimation has been received at Annan that Private Robert Douglas, 2nd Battalion Border Regiment, was killed in France on October 26. Private Douglas was a native of Annan, and was a son of the late John Douglas, fisherman. He was a reservist, and at the time he was called up he was engaged at Newbie Engineering Works."

CWGC
DOUGLAS, ROBERT
Rank: Private
Service No: 8372
Date of Death: 26/10/1914
Age: 31
Regiment/Service: Border Regiment 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 35.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of John and Ellen Douglas.

SNWM
Surname: DOUGLAS
Firstname: Robert
Service Number: 8372
Date Death: 26/10/1914
Place of birth: Annan Dumfriesshire
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: L.Sgt. William B. White Reply with quote

WW1
GORD HIGHRS
White, W.B.

(Glasgow Herald 24th Dec 1914)
"Intimation has been received in Annan that Lance-Sergeant William Gordon Highlanders, was killed in the fighting in France on December 14, Lance-Sergeant White, who some years service in India, was a reservist, and at the outbreak of war was employed with messrs. R. Robinson & sons, Provost Oat Mills, Annan."

CWGC
WHITE, WILLIAM B.
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Service No: 7669
Date of Death: 14/12/1914
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 38.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: WHITE
Firstname: William
Service Number: 7669
Date Death: 14/12/1914
Place of birth: Hawick Roxburghshire
Other: 1st Bn.
SNWM roll: THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank: L/Sgt


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