The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

geoffarcher · Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 6

One more correction - to my comment about this being used 9 times - make that 10. I've just realised that there is another memorial in Grangetown in South Wales which is yet another version of this figure. As has been pointed out elsewhere (see the comments - & excellent photos - on the Langholm memorial) there are slight variations with some of the versions, but the same basic cast was used in all cases.
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spoons · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject:

Name: BELL-IRVING, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: Royal Scots
Secondary Unit Text: and 10th Bn.
Age: 37
Date of Death: 27/10/1915
Additional information: Son of David Jardine Bell-Irving and Elizabeth Stone Bell-Irving; husband of Jean Miller Bell-Irving, of Hewke, Lockerbie, Dumfries-shire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Old ground, North-East corner.
Cemetery: ST. MUNGO OLD PARISH CHURCHYARD

Pilot with 9 Res Aero Sqn, killed whilst flying in UK

spoons · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject:

Name: BLACK
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: General List
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 18
Date of Death: 03/10/1917
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 3. 724.
Cemetery: LOCKERBIE (DRYFESDALE) CEMETERY

Pilot in 39 Trg Sqn, died of injuries whilst flying MFSH (Maurice Farman Short Horn) B4682

spoons · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:04 pm Post subject:

Name: GROSSART
Initials: R D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: General List
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 25
Date of Death: 09/02/1917
Additional information: Son of Robert Fraser Grossart and Wilhelmina Gibson Grossart, of Milton, Beattock, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: North-East of Church.
Cemetery: KIRKPATRICK-JUXTA PARISH CHURCHYARD

36 Res Sqn pilot (18/Welsh Regt) killed whilst flying in BE2c 4509 in UK

DerekR · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject:

I've just been told that 2 years ago the local British legion had 3 WW2 plates added to the bottom of the memorial.
One of these plates shows the following:-
"In glorious memory of those that gave their lives in the world war 1939 - 45"
The other 2 plates give the names of those fallen. They do not give details of Rank or Units unlike those of the first War.

The town hall is again open for business and the original WW2 memorial can now be accessed.

Photos to follow when I'm next over that way on the motorbike. Wink

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spoons · Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject:

I understand that these WW2 plaques were added to the memorial sometime before remembrance day 2011. The names are exactly the same as those on the plaque inside the Town Hall.

anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:19 pm Post subject: Albert John Guthrie

Albert John Guthrie Lt 5th Gordon Highlanders Coull, Aberdeenshire 19/01/1891 Age 25 Killed in Action F & F 30/07/1916 Son of Rev William Galletly Guthrie, & Mrs Maria Ann (nee Peters) Guthrie, Manse of Glass. 1891 Census: Corse Schoolhouse, 2 mo. 1901 Census: The Manse House, Coull. B 1891. Officers Book page 242. National Probate Calendar: Probate date: 1 Jan 1917. Brother Alexander KiA 12-7-17 RFA. EE 21-07-17 Page 3. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C ADJ 08-08-16 BO 15-08-16 P5 & 22-5-16 P5 Glass Logie Buchan & Peterhead
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:22 pm Post subject: John Middleton

John Middleton Serjeant 6506 3rd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Holywood e Glasgow Age 38 Died Dumfriesshire, United Kingdom 22/03/1916 Son of James and Sarah Middleton, of Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire; husband of Rhoda Maria Middleton, of Hessenford, Cornwall. Served in the South African Campaign. Soldiers Will 4 Pages. LOCKERBIE (DRYFESDALE) CEMETERY 2. 1727.
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:26 pm Post subject: George Docherty

George Docherty Pte S/3534 9th Gordon Highlanders e Aberdeen Age 22 Died of Wounds F & F 30/06/1917 Son of James & Lizzie Curran, High Law Cott; Lockerbie, Dumfries-shire. Native of Ringford, Kirkcudbrightshire. Etaples Military Cemetery Fr 0040 Plot XXII Row M Grave 26 Applegarth and Sibbaldbie Parish & Lockerbie
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject: John B Gordon

John B Gordon Private S/10746 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Kirkcudbright e Lanark Age 29 Killed in Action Somme, France 01/07/1916 Son of Samuel and Janet Gordon, of Netherplace, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire; husband of Margaret Gordon, of Main St., Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Dantzig Alley British Cemetery, Mametz Fr 0397 Plot IV Row G Grave 08
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: Samuel Gordon

Samuel Gordon Pte S/14228 6th Gordon Highlanders b Dumfries e Dumfries Age 23 Died of Wounds F&F 10/07/1917 Son of Samuel and Janet Gordon, of Nether Place, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire. Born at Dumfries. Soldiers Will 7 Pages. Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery B 011 Plot XVRow B Grave 13A
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:43 pm Post subject: Thomas W Gordon

Thomas W Gordon Pte S/11731 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders e Lockerbie,Dumfries Age 34 Killed in Action F&F 31/07/1917 (Pilckem Ridge) Son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Gordon, of Nether Place, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire. Menin Gate Memorial M. R. 29 Panel 38
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:45 pm Post subject: Robert Henderson

Robert Henderson Pte 292329 7th Gordon Highlanders b Johnstone,Dumfries e Lockerbie Killed in Action F&F 23/04/1917 Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Brown's Copse Cemetery, Rouex Fr 0604 Plot II Row C Grave 11 Lockerbie & Lochmaben
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anne park · Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: Thomas Kirk

Thomas Kirk Private S/3190 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Crawford ,Lanark. e Wishaw Age 23 Killed in Action Pas de Calais, France 25/09/1915 Adopted son of Mr. and Mrs. Kirk, of March House, Abington, Lanarkshire. Loos Memorial M. R. 19 Panel 115 to 119 Hamilton Advertiser 23-09-16 Page 5 Lockerbie
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Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:57 pm Post subject:

JOHN MALTMAN – age 32 – Private (18285) 1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
John joined his battalion at Gallipoli on 18 July 1915. They were evacuated from Gallipoli in January 1916 and moved to Alexandra in Egypt and from there sailed to Marseilles for service in France.
Born 1884 in Borgue, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of James and Agnes (Monaghan) Maltman. Husband of Maggie (Anderson) Maltman of Greenburn, Applegarth and of Mount Pleasant, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire who he married in 1906 at Longwood, Tongland, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Died of Wounds on 16 July 1916 and buried in Corbie Communal Cemetery Extension, Somme, France.
Also named on the Applegarth War Memorial and on the family grave in Borgue Churchyard.
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-ftopic674-0-asc-15.html
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