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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Morton Parish, Thornhill Reply with quote

This memorial is not listed on UKNIWM

At the main road junction in Thornhill (Market Cross) take the side road towards the police station and the memorial is about 50 yards on the left.
OS Map Ref: NX 879 955

An unusual memorial, and don't miss the entry for Korea on the front.






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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite distinctive.
I like the way they have added names for WW2 in 'bookform'.
Is that Laurel leaves behind the book?, part of the original memorial?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book is bronze, leaning on a carved stone rest (lectern?) and the laurel leaves are carved in stone and form part of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A three-fold loss;

Name: HIDDLESTON, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 5th/6th Bn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 22/06/1918
Service No: 30109
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XI. E. 12.
Cemetery: NINE ELMS BRITISH CEMETERY

Name: HIDDLESTON, JOHN SMITH
Initials: J S
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regiment)
Unit Text: No. 4 (University) Coy.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 02/06/1916
Service No: 475422
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dunfries-shire, Scotland.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: HIDDLESTON, ROBERT DALZIEL
Initials: R D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Queen's Own (Royal West Kent Regiment)
Secondary Regiment: London Regiment
Secondary Unit Text: posted to 2nd/20th Bn.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 30/08/1918
Service No: G/36733
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Hiddleston, of Carronbank, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. E. 13.
Cemetery: H.A.C. CEMETERY, ECOUST-ST. MEIN
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do like this memorial. the bronze book is very unusual. Was there any symbolism to the memorial before the book was added?

Korean Casualty

From http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/bkva/page3.phtml

Corporal W.D. POSSEE 30 1 Glosters 26 April 1951

He is not listed on the SNWM. I take it 30 refers to his age.

And the link to the recently posted Korean War website page for Cpl Possee:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bkvaroh/ROH/FilesCM/0266.htm

26th April must make him one of the Glorious Glosters. Between 22nd and 25th April they held their position on the Imjin River.

For more information see here

http://members.tripod.com/~Glosters/Imjin.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A nice place in Morton to have a take-away pizza by the looks of it as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

about the pizza box - what can I say Embarassed - only noticed it on the photo afterwards, still..........I like to see a memorial that is used (with respect) and it certainly wasn't covered in cig ends and beer cans.

I see what you mean about any earlier symbolism, if you take away the WW2 memorials then it would look like there was something missing so it seems reasonable to assume that there was something there earlier, but I have not information, sorry.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
I like to see a memorial that is used (with respect) and it certainly wasn't covered in cig ends and beer cans.


Spoons

You are right, it was a cheap shot. The memorial looks very well looked after.

I also notice that Pte James Beattie RSF was added to the Great War names at a later date.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no offence taken, I am no photographer so appreciate any comments and have changed what and how I photograph based on what people want and comment on. There is a WW1 nurse on this memorial, don't see too many of those either.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just remembered that Helen Hastings (listed on the memorial) is buried in Morton cemetery and I have a photo of her gravestone.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Korean casualty Reply with quote

5110764 Corporal W.D. Possee - killed in action - 25th April 1951. Aged 30.

Aye
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Name: McNAUGHT, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Leading Aircraftman
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: No.1 R.A.F. Beach Unit
Age: 39
Date of Death: 06/06/1944
Service No: 1562096
Additional information: Son of John McNaught and of Mary McNaught (nee Clifton); husband of Isabella Watson Brown McNaught (nee McDonald), of Springfield, Fife.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 242.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

No 1 RAF Beach Unit was part of the forward troops on D Day with the task of getting tactical air support as soon as possible. He died on D Day. More details of the beach units can be found at

http://www.rafbeachunits.info/index.html

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
A three-fold loss;

Name: HIDDLESTON, JAMES
Name: HIDDLESTON, JOHN SMITH
Name: HIDDLESTON, ROBERT DALZIEL


The family headstone in Morton Cemetery, Thornhill has now been posted on the War Graves Forum here

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Morton War Memorial, Thornhill Reply with quote

On the Morton War Morton for WW1 have Private John McNaught, Service No 339685, 5/6th Battalion Scottish Rifles, killed in action 22/9/1918 aged 18 years.
He was brother of above Joseph McNaught died 6/6/1944, for WW2.
Both brothers on Morton War Memorials, and on Roll of Honour in Virginhall Church. Family grave in Old Morton Cemetery show both boys.
John and Mary McNaught lost two sons in each of the wars.
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