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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Kincardine & Croick War Memorial, Ardgay, Sutherland (T) Reply with quote

Kincardine and Croick War Memorial, Ardgay
Location: In village centre. Beside A836
OS Ref: NH 599 904
Number of Great War Names: 36
Number of WW2 Names: 10













I don't suppose anyone knows what the Gaelic inscription says?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the names in alphabetical order:

1914-1919

AIRD , George , Private , 8th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
BAIN , John , Private , 5th Bn Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
BIRNIE , Arthur W , Seaman , Royal Canadian Naval Reserve
BUCKWORTH , Charles R , Lieutenant , 2nd Bn Seaforth Highlanders
CAMPBELL , J Lorne , Corporal MM , 8th Bn Canadian Expeditionary Force
CAMPBELL , John , Private , Canadian Expeditionary Force
DENOON , William , Sergeant , 2nd Bn Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
DOUGLAS , William , Private , 6th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
DUNCAN , Alfred C R , Private , 2nd Bn Seaforth Highlanders
FORBES , John , Corporal DCM , 1st Bn Seaforth Highlanders
FRASER , Hugh , Lance Corporal , 1/4th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
GALLIE , James , Private , 4th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
GILMOUR , Allan , Captain , Lovat Scouts
GORDON , Alexander , Private , 1/5th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
MacDONALD , George , Private , Depot, Seaforth Highlanders
MacKAY , Alexander , Private , 10th Bn Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
MacKAY , Peter , Private , 27th (Winnipeg) Bn Canadian Expeditionary Force
MacLEAN , Charles A , Private , 5th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
MacLENNAN , Thomas D , Corporal , Scottish Horse
MacLEOD , Alexander J , Private , 1/4th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
MacLEOD , John , Lance Corporal , 1st Bn Gordon Highlanders
MacLEOD , John R , Private , 14th (London Scottish) Bn London Regiment
MacPHERSON , John , Private , Seaforth Highlanders
RAE , John , Private , 1/4th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , Donald , Private , Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , George , Private , 1/5th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , Hugh , Private , 1st Bn Scots Guards
ROSS , Hugh , Private , 8th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , Hugh , Private , Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , John , Sergeant MM , 1/5th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , John , Private , 1st Bn Gordon Highlanders
ROSS , John , Private , Machine Gun Corps
ROSS , Thomas , Private , 1/5th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
SMEATON , William R , Private , 1st Bn Seaforth Highlanders
URQUHART , Hugh , Private , 6th Bn Seaforth Highlanders
VAAS , William , Private , 32nd Bn Machine Gun Corps


1939-1945

MacASKILL , Mary , Leading Aircraftwoman , Women's Auxilliary Air Force
McLEAN , Patrick B G , 2nd Lieutenant , 1st Bn Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders
MUNRO , Andrew D , Captain , 5th Bn The Seaforth Highlanders
PEARL , John A , Sergeant , Royal Air Force
ROSE , George , Company Sergeant Major , 5th Bn The Seaforth Highlanders
ROSS , Donald , Private , Royal Artillery
ROSS , Walter M , Petty Officer , Merchant Navy
ROSS , William D , Sapper , Royal Engineers
SINCLAIR , John M , Sergeant , Royal Air Force
URQUHART , Mary A R , Sister , Queen Alexandra's Imperial Militrary Nursing Service

Note two women out of ten names on the Second World War list.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christine Stokes kindly passed on a translation of the Gaelic. It is

"Follow close the fame of your forefathers"

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For more information on the names on this memorial please go to the appropriate list on this forum using the link below

First World War

Sutherland’s Great War Dead A-E

Sutherland’s Great War Dead F-L

Sutherland’s Great War Dead Mc / Mac

Sutherland’s Great War Dead M

Sutherland’s Great War Dead N-R

Sutherland’s Great War Dead S-Y

Second World War

Sutherland’s Second World War Dead A-L

Sutherland’s Second World War Dead Mc / Mac

Sutherland’s Second World War Dead M-Z

Post-War

Sutherland’s Post-1945 War Dead

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Kincardine War memorial Ardgay Reply with quote

Some details of the men listed on the Kincardine War memorial

MacLEOD , John , Lance Corporal , 1st Bn Gordon Highlanders

The above was my grandfathers brother, born 6 July 1888 and died 12 July 1918 in India. There is some discrepancy of his actual rank. CWGC, SNWM and other sources have him as a private. I have a memorial card and the Kincardine War memorial has him recorded as a Lance Corporal. He enlisted at Invergordon. His medal card has Gordon Highlanders S/16835 and also Seaforths S/15414.
John had 4 brothers who served in France and against the odds they all survived.

John Macleod's cousin through his mothers brother was

ROSS , John , Private , 1st Bn Gordon Highlanders


born in 1883 died 31 July 1916 at the Battle of the Somme

John Macleod's cousin through his mothers sister was

SMEATON , William R , Private , 1st Bn Seaforth Highlanders

William was actually born in Glasgow in 1888 but returned to his grandparents with his mother when his father died when he was aged just 4. He died 24 April 1916 and is on the Basra Memorial.

William Smeatons sister's brother n law was

ROSS , Hugh , Private , 1st Bn Scots Guards

born 1897 died september 1918

Not related to he above

MacLEOD , John R , Private , 14th (London Scottish) Bn London Regiment


Was the son if the local minister Alexander Macleod. Born 1882 died 29 August 1918
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88 Years Ago
Published: 20 July, 2006

Friday, July 19, 1918
Pte Roderick Macleod, London Scottish, only son of the Rev Alexander and Mrs Macleod, Kincardine Manse, Ardgay, has been awarded the DCM for conspicuous bravery as a dispatch runner on the Western Front.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: More on the men from Ardgay area Reply with quote

To follow up on my last post

ROSS , Hugh , Private , 1st Bn Scots Guards

ROSS , Walter M , Petty Officer , Merchant Navy

These guys were brothers

Hugh was the youngest and born 1897 and died 27/09/1918, buried Sanders Keep
Walter was born 5 July 1894 and died 7 Dec 1942 when the S.S Ceramic was torpedoed and sunk. He was the first radio officer
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great information Ross, thanks very much for posting this.

Any pictures you can add of the men?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ross,
Thanks for the posting and extra info.
It really is amazing how and where family connections tie us all together.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Pictures Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Great information Ross, thanks very much for posting this.

Any pictures you can add of the men?

\Paul


This may or not be Lance Corporal John Macleod.

I found some pictures here http://www.rchs.uhi.ac.uk/communit/p37/ht/rs/WW1%20Records/WR_pages_MacLeod/War_records_Macleod-02.html

I can confirm that Murdo, Alex, William and Donald listed on the page are definately my grandfathers brothers as I have other pictures of them. I dont have any pictures of John Macleod. There is a chance that the picture is of John Macleod. What do you think ?



Any detectives out there ?
Murdo b 1885
John b 1888
William b 1892
Alec b 1894
Donald b 1896


Cheers
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland (RCAHMS) website

Ardgay War Memorial

Type of Site: War Memorial
NMRS Number: NH59SE 62
Map reference: NH 5997 9041
Parish: Kincardine (Sutherland)
Council: Highland
Former District: Sutherland
Former Region: Highland
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: More on the men from Ardgay area Reply with quote

ross wrote:
To follow up on my last post

ROSS , Hugh , Private , 1st Bn Scots Guards

ROSS , Walter M , Petty Officer , Merchant Navy

These guys were brothers

Hugh was the youngest and born 1897 and died 27/09/1918, buried Sanders Keep
Walter was born 5 July 1894 and died 7 Dec 1942 when the S.S Ceramic was torpedoed and sunk. He was the first radio officer


And just another follow up to my earlier follow up....
Rosshire Journal 15.01.1943

The relatives of Mr Walter Ross, of the Merchant Service, second son of the late Mr and Mrs Hugh Ross, Gruinards, Ardgay, have been notified of his loss at sea, through enemy action. Mr Ross held a responsible post and was seafaring for over 28 years. He saw much service in the last war, and was more than once shipwrecked, as a result of enemy action. A fine type of officer, he was beloved for his many good qualities. He was educated at Croick School and Tain Royal Academy. His duties took him to many parts of the world, and regularly he came to his home district to spend his leave. A very wide circle of friends, at home and abroad, sympathise with his brother, Mr David Ross, the two sisters and other relatives. Mr David Ross served in the last war with the Machine Gun Corps. A younger brother, Mr Hugh Ross, Scots Guards, paid the supreme sacrifice in France in the last war.

http://www.rchs.uhi.ac.uk/communit/p37/ht/rs/WW2%20Records/WW2%20Ross%20K%20to%20Ross%20W.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1939-1945 Plaque.

Sister Mary Urquhart QAIMNS was one of 76 Female service personnel who drowned when the S.S. Khedive Ismail was torpedoed in the Indian Ocean on 12th February 1944. She is also commemorated on the Brookwood Memorial.
The third worst shipping disaster of WW2. In total 1,297 of the ship's complement were lost.

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Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony

Many thanks for confirming how Sister Urquhart died. I suspected she had died on the Khedive Ismail since the date of death, the fact she was a nurse and the listing on the Brookwood memorial all pointed to her being lost on that ship but I had no proof. This is all i had about her. I will now update her entry on my Sutherland Roll of Honour

URQUHART, Mary Annie Ross
Rank: Sister
Number: 274611
Unit: Queen Alexandra’s Imperial Military Nursing Service
Died: 12.2.44 Lost at Sea?
Age: 31
Parents: Mr and Mrs Donald Urquhart of Rhelonie
Buried: Brookwood Memorial, Pirbright, Surrey
Memorials: Listed on the Kincardine and Croick War Memorial, Ardgay

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam

Thanks! Living so far South of the border I am just pleased that I can occasionally offer a small tit-bit to the Project.

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Sgt. J. V. MURPHY, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, D.O.W Monte Cassino, Italy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another Ardgay name I had trouble finding before.

Details I had found in the local paper gave the wrong date and the wrong spelling of a place in Norway so it took a bit longer than it should have to identify him.

SINCLAIR, John Macdonald
Rank: Sergeant (Flight Engineer)
Number: 637117
Unit: 97 Squadron, Royal Air Force
Died: 23/02/1945 Asgardstrand, Norway
Age: 32
Parents: Son of Jasper and Christina Sinclair, of Scarfskerry, Caithness-shire. Formerly of Station House, Ardgay
Born: Newtonmore, Inverness-shire
Buried: Tonsberg Old Cemetery, Norway
Memorials: Listed on the Kincardine and Croick War Memorial, Ardgay

From: http://www.rchs.uhi.ac.uk/communit/p37/ht/rs/WW2%20Records/WW2%20Sangster%20to%20Sinclair.html

Mr and Mrs Sinclair, Station House, Ardgay, have received news that their only son was posted missing on operational work. Flight Engineer John Macdonald Sinclair enlisted in the Spring of 1939. Previously he was a fully trained mechanical engineer, employed with Messrs Shaw Brothers in Grantown on Spey. After the outbreak of war he was in Rhodesia for over four years. He returned about a year ago and has been in England since then.

From Lost Bombers: http://www.lostbombers.co.uk/bomber.php?id=3336

Lancaster PB588

Information
Squadron 97
X1D OF-E
Operation: Horten
Date 1 23rd February 1945
Date 2 24th February 1945

Further Information
"Serial Range PA964 - PD196. This aircraft was one of 800 Lancasters ordered from A.V.Roe (Chadderton) of which 756 were delivered as 255 Mk.1s and 500 Mk.111s and one Lancastrian between May44 and Mar44, mainly from Chadderton with 87 from Yeadon. The Mk.111s had Merlin 38 engines initially installed except for the late production models which had Merlin 224 engines. PB588 was delivered to No.635 Sqdn ex-32MU Oct44 before joining 97 Sqdn.(No date) No other operational history available

Airborne 1650 23Feb45 from Coningsby to attack the U-Boat facilities in Oslo Fjord. Shot down during as exchange of fire with a Ju88, crashing at Asjardstrand. Six are buried in Tonsberg Old Cemetery, but panel 272 of the Runnymede Memorial commemorates Sgt Moroney. F/L Ray was 38, well over the average age for Bomber Command aircrew. F/L B.J.Hines KIA Sgt J.McD Sinclair KIA F/L M.R.McQuillan RCAF KIA F/S A.J.Marrable KIA Sgt D.Moroney KIA F/L J.Ray KIA F/S C.W.Palmer KIA "
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