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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Poloc Cricket Club Reply with quote

Poloc Cricket Club, “Shawholm”, Pollok Country Park, 2060 Pollokshaws Road, Glasgow G43 1AT

OS Grid Ref: NS 557613



Founded in 1878, Poloc Cricket Club spent its first season on the site of the old Pollokshaws Race Course and in 1880 moved to our unrivalled location here at Shawholm where play has continued for the last 130+ years.
A pavilion was acquired by the club from the now-defunct Pollokshields Athletic Club, also located on Pollok Estate, and the building was moved to Shawholm on rollers. In the same year, the main avenue from Pollokshaws Road to Pollok House was opened, running past the north side of the ground in what is now Pollok Country Park. This avenue still provides a beautiful tree-lined approach to Shawholm to this day with the River Cart to the left. www.poloc.com
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



POLOC CRICKET CLUB
IN MEMORY OF

H. Aitken
A.J. Brown
J.A.M. Brown
W.M. Coulter MC
A.G. Deveria
W. Findlay
A.M. Greenwood
C.C. Henderson
A. Hunter MC
A.R. Temperley
D.F. Thomson MM
W.D. Wallace
T.M. Whitelaw

WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR COUNTRY 1914 – 1919

1939 – WORLD WAR – 1945

W.T. McBeath
I.L. MacDonald
T.G.M. MacIntyre
D.P. McLoughlin
P.E. Mitchell
J.B. Stephen
W.W. Weir Jun.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Many thanks to Keith Young, President, for allowing me access to the club.

John
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Ken Morrison for identifying one of the "missing" men.

MACINTYRE, THOMAS GEORGE MATHESON
Rank: Pilot Officer
Trade:Pilot
Service No:67071
Date of Death:25/08/1941
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 83 Sqdn.
Grave Reference Sec. K. (New Part). Grave 167.
Cemetery GLASGOW (EASTWOOD) OLD AND NEW CEMETERY
SNWM shows born Dunoon.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers John - Macintyre's story is at the University of Glasgow's site http://www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/biography/?id=WH0488&type=P
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note Thomas MacIntyre was yet another young man from the club who died whilst serving in the RAFVR in WW2. The armed service of choice for cricketing Glaswegians?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Edward Mitchell's story looks interesting.
The citation of his award of the DFC shows that he was with a Canadian Squadron:
Pilot Officer Peter Edward MITCHELL (135429), Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, No. 408 (R.C.A.F.) Squadron.
Pilot Officer Mitchell is a navigator of high merit. He has taken part in 23 sorties, including a number of attacks on heavily defended targets in the Ruhr and Northern France. One night in March, 1943, he navigated an aircraft which attacked Berlin. His great skill contributed materially to the success achieved. Pilot Officer Mitchell has displayed great determination and cheerfulness in arduous and adverse circumstances.

A more complete history is at the Air Force Association of Canada
http://airforce.ca/awards.php

MITCHELL, P/O Peter Edward (RAF 135429) - Distinguished Flying Cross - No.408 Squadron - awarded as per London Gazette dated 6 April 1943. Born at Pollokshaws, Glasgow, 1913; home there; educated at Shawland Academy, Glasgow. Enlisted 1940; commissioned 1942. Air Ministry Bulletin 9816 refers.

Pilot Officer Mitchell is a navigator of high merit. He has taken part in 23 sorties, including a number of attacks on heavily defended targets in the Ruhr and northern France. One night in March 1943 he navigated an aircraft which attacked Berlin. His great skill contributed materially to the success achieved. Pilot Officer Mitchell has displayed great determination and cheerfulness in arduous and adverse circumstances.


NOTE: DHist file 181.006 D.2617 (National Archives of Canada RG.24 Vol.20627) and Public Record Office Air 2/4951 has recommendation dated 8 March 1943 when he had flown 23 sorties (138 hours 42 minutes) which reads:

Since joining this squadron in June 1942, Pilot Officer Mitchell has carried out 23 operational sorties over enemy territory, and carried out attacks on the most intensely defended enemy targets. These operations included sorties to the following: Essen (1), Bremen (1), Saarbrucken (2), Gardening (4), Mainz (1), Dusseldorf (2), sea searches (2), Osnabruck (1), Flensburg (1), Kassel (1), Wilhelmshaven (2), Lorient (1), Cologne (1), St.Nazaire (1), Berlin (1).

During these operations, Pilot Officer Mitchell has pressed home his attack with the utmost determination and has shown courage and coolness of a very high order in that on four consecutive sorties, namely: Dusseldorf, Osnabruck, Flensburg and Wilhelmshaven, this officer led his pilot over the target in such a way as to bring back pictures of the actual aiming point.

On the night of the 1st March 1943 he also navigated his aircraft over Berlin and led his pilot to a point where they procured a picture within a mile of the aiming point. During these operations this officer’s courage, skill and determination has inspired a high standard of morale in his crew.

On 12 March 1943 the Officer Commanding, Station Leeming (Group Captain C.R. Dunlap), wrote:

Pilot Officer Mitchell is a brave and determined officer and a very skilful navigator. He is cheerful under the most arduous and adverse circumstances, is inspirational to the other members of the crew. This recommendation for Distinguished Flying Cross has been truly earned.

This was endorsed by Air Vice-Marshal G.E. Brookes, Air Officer Commanding, No.6 Group, on 20 March 1943.


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His final squadron (109) was a unit of the Pathfinder Force flying Mosquitoes equipped with Oboe Radar.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:01 am    Post subject: Update on Poloc memorial Reply with quote

I'm a committee member at Poloc and I've recently taken on the task of updating the war memorial profiles at the club. Thanks to those who posted about the "missing" men on the biographies - I think I've now also found W W Weir Jnr - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1531201/weir,-walter/ - as his parents were from Glasgow and his father was also a Walter, hence the Jnr. It seems, at least, a reasonable fit.

Unfortunately I have also discovered that two of the names, as printed on the biographies, were incorrect. First, H Aitken is actually this man - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/108131/aitken,-/ - the club's minute books of the time note the death of a Halbert Aitken, rather than a Henry.

Secondly, the name of W(illiam) Findlay appears to have been misspelt on the brass plate - the minute books record the death of a William Finlay (spelt without an L) and the dates of the death of the W Findlay listed on the old biographies do not tally up with the approximate date of his death, as minuted, in July 1918. I think he is actually this chap - https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/70226/finlay,-william/ whose date of death is within a few days of what the club records suggest it was, and whose parents hailed from Glasgow.

I've had the biographies reprinted with the mistakes corrected, and the "missing" men added, and plan a longer-term review of all the records to try and expand the biographies where possible and create a definitive set of records. As part of this, I have an appointment next week to meet the (nonagenarian) sister of DP McLoughlin, and her daughter (his niece) to exchange stories and documents!

If anyone has any further queries about the memorial, please get in touch.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, welcome and thank you for the update.

If it helps (a little bit) the Falkirk Herald of 3 August 1918 has:

FINLAY—Killed in action in France, on 10th inst. Pte. William Finlay. Royal Scots, aged 19, eldest son of Mr and Mrs W. E. Finlay, Arden, Newlands, Glasgow.

Which puts him in the correct location - but why the Falkirk paper?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case - did you know that the service record of Halbert Alexander Steele Aitken exists on Ancestry?
It shows that he was an insurance clerk with the Royal Exchange Assurance in Glasgow and was living at 10 Albert Road, Langside when he enlisted, aged 19, in the RFA Territorials in April 1914.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you have the correct Walter Weir - Flight Lieutenant 85 Squadron - he was navigator on a Mosquito being piloted by Wing Commander HENRY De CLIFFORD ANTHONY WOODHOUSE, D F C, A F C, who had been born on 16 June 1915 in New York, USA and who had been the Commanding Officer of 71 [Eagle] Squadron, RAF.
The American Air Museum in Britain http://www.americanairmuseum.com/person/240298 has:

"Died whilst with 85 Sqn RAF, flying de Havilland Mosquito MM632 - Destroyed a V-1 and went missing North Sea 13th Aug 1944, along with his observor F/Lt Walter Weir MIA/KIA. May have been a victim of friendly fire."
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken - obliged for your help. I don't have Ancestry access so thanks for looking these up - I'll get round to it, but not quickly as the cricket season is about to start!

The one other current mystery concerns the minuted death (in October 1918) of an Arthur G McG Watt, whose name does not appear on the memorial. I think his demise may have been recorded in error (perhaps he was wounded?) as there was an Arthur G M Watt of about the right age living locally at the 1911 census, who then almost certainly died in Dunoon in 1980, and not in the war. Might his service records be online somewhere?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Medal Card for Arthur G. M. Watt as Private 4228 and Lance Corporal 331475 in the 1/9th (Glasgow Highland) Battalion of the Highland Light Infantry. The card does not have a “date of entry” indicating that he joined the battalion after 1915 (they had been in France since November 1914).
The card also shows that he left for a commissioned on 24 January 1917 and the London Gazette of 6 /2/1917 p.1371 confirms that Arthur Graham Macgregor Watt was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the HLI on 25/1/1917. He was promoted as A. G. M. Watt to Lieutenant in the 1/9th HLI on 25 July 1918 but the notice in the Gazette is dated 16/3/1920 p.3416 indicating that he did survive the war.
In fact he sailed from London to Bombay on 10 April 1919, aged 22, to be a Tea Planter.

The reverse of the Medal Card has a reference (which I don't understand!) and has an address of “Kelani” West Kilbride, Ayrshire in May 1925.

His service record is held at the National Archives at Kew but it has not been “digitised” so cannot be downloaded. See http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C742561

I think you are correct about his death in Dunoon as the age and dates match but I cannot trace his birth. Overseas perhaps? Does the 1911 census give a place of birth?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken - yes, born overseas, in Ceylon. Maybe that’s where he got a notion for growing tea!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some additional information on William Finlay.
The CWGC Headstone Schedules Mr W.E Finlay, 45 Monteith Road, Newlands, Glasgow.
The headstone is inscribed HE DIED THAT WE MIGHT LIVE.

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