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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Kells Parish, New Galloway Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref No. 58060

OS Map Ref: NX 636 777

This memorial is very large indeed. I am not good at judging heights but this is the highest memorial I have seen, I was going to say in any small town or village, but I cannot remember a taller one anywhere else either. Made all the more impressive by the fact that it stands on a mound.

Jane Nodwell (VAD) appears on the memorial and also on the memorial at Dumfries Academy. As with many VAD, she does not appear on CWGC but I have tracked down her grave which is also in New Galloway at Kells church (just a little way up the road). I have also posted the photo of her grave following the memorial and the transcription of the inscription is:

In LOVING MEMORY OF
VAD NURSE JANE LAUDER
(JANIE)
THE DEARLY BELOVED
SECOND DAUGHTER OF
SAMUEL & JANET NODWELL
WHO DIED ON SERVICE AT
YORKHILL WAR HOSPITAL GLASGOW
19TH NOVEMBER 1918







and Janes grave......................



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note the number of Cameron Highlanders listed on this memorial. Unusual for a KOSB area.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Note the number of Cameron Highlanders listed on this memorial. Unusual for a KOSB area.

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A litttle research has turned up this photo. Published in a book in 2002, the inscription is presumably from 1915. Two of those in the photo; Adam Byers and William Stewart subsequently died in the war and are listed on this memorial.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will notice that a mistake in the naming of the men in the above photo has slipped through the editorial process - there are five men standing in the back row, but only four names are given. The missing name is Lance Corporal John Geddes, who is mentioned further on in the text. L/Cpl Geddes is 2nd from the left between Pte Black and L/Cpl Byers.

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Note the number of Cameron Highlanders listed on this memorial. Unusual for a KOSB area.


One of the main reasons for the relatively low KOSB enlistment in the New Galloway area was localised political fall-out from the decision not to include the Kells as one of the companies in the newly formed 5th KOSB (TF) in 1908. New Galloway had always been a strong supporter of the Galloway Rifle Volunteers ('E' Coy.) and so expected to be represented in the new set-up. However, once they realised that they were being overlooked there was a great deal of ill-feeling towards the 5th Battalion and so very few men from the area ended up with the KOSB.

New Galloway's antipathy towards the new set-up is expressed more fully by Ian Devlin in Albanich: "With a sufficiency of recruits within the Dumfries and Galloway region, it was considered that 'E' Company, New Galloway.... was drawn from too remote an area and it was with some reluctance that this Company was disbanded. It was to be many a long day before the men of New Galloway and the Glenkens were to forgive their home Regiment, the KOSB for their ingratitude to a Company who had produced many of the Regiments finest marksmen, two of the Regiments four Commanding Officers and their Colour Sergeant, now Sergeant Major Grierson, who had captured Commandant Wolmaran and 30 armed men in South Africa in 1901. From that date [1908] the men of the Glenkens were to offer their future services to the Cameron Highlanders."

Although omitting the reason which lay behind it, it is even noted in the official history of the 5th KOSB that: ".... the first man enlisted in New Galloway went to the Cameron Highlanders. As soon as he had been seen swaggering in his kilt down the High Street of this ancient burgh, nine or ten of his chums went off to join that regiment."
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I returned today to take some better photos and make a better estimate of the size of this memorial. It stands on a square raised platform approximately 5 feet high. The memorial rises to approximately 25 feet above the hight of the platform.

It has already been commented on the unusual design and construction. Would anyone care to venture a description? Stepped pyramid perhaps?







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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have renamed this memorial thread to better reflect both the location (and name known locally) as well as the parish to which it is dedicated.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This memorial has now been listed by UKNIWM, presumably by their new volunteer project taking this information from our site as I invited them to.

First post amended to include UKNIWM ref no.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the WW2 Panel
AB DAVID STEWART

Name: STEWART, DAVID
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Able Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Fabius
Age: 20
Date of Death: 30/04/1945
Service No: C/JX 550460
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. James Stewart, of Castle Douglas.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. 6. Grave 11.
Cemetery: CROSSMICHAEL PARISH CHURCHYARD EXTENSION

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=220

David died of acute leukaemia at the Western Infirmary, Glasgow.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lengthy report on the unveiling of this memorial in the Kirkudbrightshire Advertiser of 28 April 1922. An extract of key information is as follows.

The height of of the memorial is confirmed as twenty five feet. The site in the Showfield was gifted by the tutors of John Seaforth Maitland Gordon of Kenmure. The monument is made of granite from the Burnfoot quarries on the Kenmure Estate and the symbol at the top of the memorial is a Chi Rho, one of the earliest Christian symbols which was brought to Galloway by Saint Ninian.

The memorial was built by Messrs Murray and McCubbing of New Galloway from an original design by Captain J W Dods VD. It was unveiled by Vice Admiral Sir A J Henniker-Heughan Bart. CB RN of Airds on Sunday 23rd April 1922 and custody was accepted by Provost Cowan on behalf of the Town and Parish councils.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that the McCHEYNEs were brothers? Although the family details are a bit inconsistant - and James's regiment is "off" Confused

Name: McCHEYNE, ALEXANDER JOSEPH
Initials: A J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 28/04/1916
Service No: S/18008
Additional information: Son of James and Mary McCheyne, of New Galloway, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 119 to 124.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: McCHEYNE
Initials: D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 13/03/1917
Service No: S/13563
Additional information: Son of James and Mary McCheyne, of Richmond Hill, Miniota, Manitoba, Canada.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. H. 12.
Cemetery: AUBIGNY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

Name: McCHEYNE, FRANCIS WALLACE
Initials: F W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Ordinary Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. "Narbrough."
Age: 19
Date of Death: 12/01/1918
Service No: J/64207
Additional information: Son of James McCheyne, of New Galloway, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 27.
Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

Name: McCHEYNE, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: "D" Coy. 1st Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 03/10/1917
Service No: 12298
Additional information: Son of James and Mary McCheyne; husband of Janet Mc Cheyne, of 24, Rolland St., Maryhill, Glasgow. Native of New Galloway, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 50.
Cemetery: BLEUET FARM CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, brothers. Another brother, Frederick, served with the A&SH from Sep 1914 and survived.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Stuart. Any idea why JAMES is listed as 6th Camerons?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea why the parents addresses are given as New Galloway, Glasgow and Canada (not in any logical order of date of death either)?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re 6th Camerons - the only conclusion I can come to is that it was a mistake, either when the roll of honour was drawn up or by the stonemason, because his KOSB number dates from August 1914, so no chance of a later transfer. I'm sure that all the reports in the KA refer to James as KOSB.

Pe parents' addresses - it suggests that the parents emigrated during the period in which the forms were being sent out by the Imperial War Graves Commission. Perhaps the shipping lists will show the parents en route to Canada. The info given implies that the form for Francis was sent before that of David even though Francis died ten months later. The Glasgow address is for the wife of James, not the parents.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stewartry wrote:
Yes, brothers. Another brother, Frederick, served with the A&SH from Sep 1914 and survived.

Stuart

Francis's obituary was published in the Kirkcudbrightshire Advertiser on 25th Jan 1918 and shows that he was indeed the fourth son to die in the war. The article states that his father also lost 2 nephews and his daughter in France (no name given). It would be interesting to know the daughter's name and how she died. The article also states that there were two further sons serving in the Army.

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