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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Coatbridge, North Lanarkshire Reply with quote

Coatbridge War Memorial
Location: Corner of public park. Overlooking corner of Bank Street and Blair Road
OS Ref: NS 722 646

A big memorial with a lot of names. I can supply higher resolution images of these images.

IMG_1555 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

IMG_1580 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

IMG_1579 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

First World War names:

WW1 Aitken-Brodie by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Brown-Costello by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Cowan-Dunn (plus BLAIR at the end) by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Dunn-Greeghan by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Greer-Jackson by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 James-Martin by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Martin-McConnell by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 McConnell-McNulty by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 McPake-Paul by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Pollock-Shaw by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Shepherd-Wall by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW1 Wall-Young by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

Second World War section:

IMG_1568 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
IMG_1569 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
IMG_1570 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Adams-Clark by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Clark-Fallon +Doran by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Fitzgerald-Hazzard by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Jarvie-Martin by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Mackie-McClure by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 McConnell-Owens by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Park-Smith by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
WW2 Smith-Young +Tumilty by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr
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Glaschu



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
Just wondered if I could ask a couple of questions. On the 1939/45 memorial , there is a Robert Bell but I can't read the letters following his name. I have saved it to my computer and tried to magnify it...no luck.

Also would someone who died in a training accident be remembered on such a memorial.

Many thanks,
Glaschu
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Adam Brown
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glaschu

A/Gr Robert Bell R.A.F. is listed. I take it A/Gr is Air Gunner. Is this your man?

Generally it doesn't matter where or how a serviceman or woman died during the war. They will still be listed even if they died accidentally during training.

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spoons



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last comment (about women) only applies to WW2 of course, in WW1 the situation was more varied, as I understand it, women were only considered to have a war grave if they died as a direct result of the war - I have instances of women listed on memorials who died for example of illness and therefore not a war grave but others in similar circumstances were not listed on their local memorial.
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Glaschu



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou both for the info. I am not sure if that was him....I thought he was in the army. He is buried in Old Monkland cemetry, lived in Coatbridge. I shall try to find out a bit more.

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Glaschu
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Glaschu



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Just checked my info re Robert Bell...he was in the RAF. He was a ground gunner...Aircraftsman First Class (AC1) Many thanks for your help. Glad he is on the memorial!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
The last comment (about women) only applies to WW2 of course, in WW1 the situation was more varied, as I understand it, women were only considered to have a war grave if they died as a direct result of the war - I have instances of women listed on memorials who died for example of illness and therefore not a war grave but others in similar circumstances were not listed on their local memorial.

A member on another forum has kindly pointed out an error in my previous assumptions and therefore this statement. Women were entitled to a war grave on the same terms as men however non military personnel such as VAD, womens hospitals, munitions workers etc were subject to the restriction I mentioned. As most of these (if not all) were in fact women, the effect is that which I have previously noted, that is that women listed on war memorials frequently are not listed on CWGC.
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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few extra photographs taken on an Autumn evening. This is another one of my favourite memorials, its beautifully proportioned and has unusual Egyptian style columns with stylised acanthus leaves carved on the capitals.



Sorry its a wee bit late but here's a close up of Robert Bell's panel. It lists him as Aircraftman Second Class rather than First.
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Glaschu



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
Thankyou so much for that photo...the information is very useful.
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Glaschu
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: ROBERTSON, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: S/4849
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 78 to 83.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: WATTERS, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (W.Op./Air Gnr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 103 Sqdn.
Age: 20
Date of Death: 23/09/1943
Service No: 1349236
Additional information: Son of William and Isabella Watters, of Coatbridge, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. A. Grave 486.
Cemetery: GLASGOW (RIDDRIE PARK) CEMETERY

See: (Page 23) http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=140&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=330&mforum=scottishwargraves
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: GARDNER, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Flying Corps
Secondary Regiment: General List
Secondary Unit Text: and
Age: 23
Date of Death: 27/11/1916
Additional information: Son of James and Mary Gardner (nee McIntyre), of 31, King St., Blairhill; Coatbridge, Lanarkshire. Accidentally killed at Upavon, Wiltshire, England.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: O. 39. (Section 7-10)
Cemetery: OLD MONKLAND CEMETERY

See: (Scottish War Graves Project, Page 2)

http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=93&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&mforum=scottishwargraves
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: ROBERTSON, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 26/28
Date of Death: 04/06/1915
Service No: 17485
Additional information: Husband of Agnes Robertson, of 9, Baird St., Coatbridge. SNWM lists birthplace as Old Monkland, Lanarkshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 84 to 92 or 220 to 222.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL



The above photo of Pte. Robertson was very kindly submitted by Scottish War Graves Forum Member 'Mangonel'. William Robertson was his Great Grandfather.

See: Scottish War Graves Project, Page 12, Old Monkland Cemetery
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?p=5971&mforum=scottishwargraves#5971
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graeme.ruxton



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with jamiemcginlay that this is a very attractive and quite unusual memorial. It was designed by Edith Burnet Hughes, who is generally considered to be the first female architect in Scotland (some sources have her down as the first in Britain). She won an open competition to design the memorial in 1924, with the memorial being erected in 1926.

Edith was the niece of the famous Glasgow architect J. J. Burnet, who was responsible for Glasgow’s war memorial in George Square, and (one of my favourites) the University of Glasgow’s Memorial Chapel.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently research Irish men who died during the Gallipoli Campaign. I have located one soldier who had connections with Coatbridge, he was,

FORSYTH, Hiram Private 12984 6th Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers
Born: Banbridge, Co Down Resided: Coatbridge, Lanarkshire Enlisted: Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Age: 41 Date of Death: 22/08/1915 Cause: Died of wounds, Egypt, (Sustained Gallipoli).
Family Notes: Son of Alexander Forsyth; husband of Ann Jane Forsyth, of 3 Close, Summerlee Buildings, Coatbridge, Lanarkshire.
Grave/Memorial: K. 76. Alexandria (Chatby) Military and War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.

I note that a Forsyth Haram 6th R.S.F., is named on the memorial; is it possible that this is HIRAM FORSYTH with errors made in in name and regiment?

I would appreciated any assistance in relation to this question.
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