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DelBoy · Last edited by DelBoy on Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:58 pm; edited 1 time in total

Can anyone find this man on CWGC? I'm struggling to.
He is on the Muckhart memorial in Stirlingshire.

SNWM
Surname: CRAM
Firstname: John Mitchell
Date Death: 26/08/1918
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL AIR FORCE
Rank: 2/Lieut

Cheers,
Derek.

dhubthaigh · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject:

Name: CRAM, JOHN MITCHELL
Initials: J M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 43rd Wing
Age: 24
Date of Death: 26/08/1918
Additional information: Son of John Mitchell Cram and Jessie Baillie Cram, of Glen Devon, Dollar, Scotland; husband of Mida Marguerite Cram, of 2064, Cameron St., Regina, Sask.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. 19. Lot 104.
Cemetery: OTTAWA (BEECHWOOD) CEMETERY

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

I am an idiot or my computer hates me!

Thanks dhubthaigh.

Derek.

DelBoy · Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject:

How about finding this one too?

R.Hdrs. (Black Watch)
T. Gowanlock, Pte.

from the Cambusbarron memorial for WW1

Derek.

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

Derek

He may be this man. James T Gowanlock, born Co. Cork, enlisted Glasgow

Name: GOWANLOCK, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 28/06/1915
Service No: 1455
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference
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Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

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Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject:

J M CRAM is listed on the Saskatchewan Virtual War Memorial at
http://www.svwm.ca/casualty_display.php?ID=A000001256

an extract reads:
Cram was the instructor on a training flight with Lt Singleton when their plane failed to come out of a planned spin and crashed at Armour Heights. He was the son of John Mitchell and Jessie Baillie Cram, farmers of Glendevon, Perth & Kinross, Scotland. John Jr. was a teller with the Canadian Bank of Commerce at Briercrest when he enlisted at Moose Jaw late in 1916, leaving a wife Mida Marguerite at Regina (they were apparently married after he enlisted).
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Ken

DelBoy · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject:

Good info Ken,

It was the "Canada" after his name on the memorial that scuppered my searches, he isn't listed as a Canadian on CWGC which is what i was searching for.

Derek.

apanderson · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:50 pm Post subject:

Cram also here: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1685&highlight=glendevon

Anne Smile

apanderson · Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject:

Jim McGinlay seems to have found a Gowanlock Family stone in Cathcart Cemetery. He hasn't got round to posting the photo.

Apparently the stone in Cathcart lists James (Tait) Gowanlock and his brother - Walter Gowanlock, both of them being in the Cameronians.

See (Page 17) http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=263&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=gowanlock&start=240&mforum=scottishwargraves

Anne

Kenneth Morrison · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:41 am Post subject:

There is an even more detailed history of John Mitchell Cram at:
http://www.treesbydan.com/p239.htm#i7553

This also confirms that the Major Robert Cram listed on the Glendevon Roll of Honour (see Anne's post) is his brother.
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Ken