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David McNay
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Banton, North Lanarkshire Reply with quote

Banton is situated outside Kilsyth, near Kirkintilloch, and can be found if you take the road from Kilsyth that leads to Stirling. Shortly after leaving Kilsyth you'll see a left turn signposted for Banton. Take left and the memorial is at the front of Banton Church on your left.

Despite being in Church grounds this is the civic memorial for Banton.

It's also the last civic memorial for Lanarkshire that remained to be added to this forum.

Memorial by J & C Mossman of Glasgow.

01 by Scottish Military Research Group, on Flickr

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well done David, always rewarding to complete a set Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just having a look at this one. There are five LAWRIEs on the WW1 section, as well as three JARVIEs.

Family connection do you think? I've only looked at the first two Jarvies and there are no family details there.

I might try and look into this a little more.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps cousins, perhaps no connection at all. From looking at Highland war memorials you notice one or two surnames tend to predominate on memorials. They aren't closely related it's just the names are common in the village.

I don't know Banton, but if it quite isolated it may be in a similar situation to Highland villages and Lawrie and Jarvie may still be common names in the village today.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David McNay wrote:
Just having a look at this one. There are five LAWRIEs on the WW1 section....
Family connection do you think?
I might try and look into this a little more.


David's post represented quite a coincidence regarding the Lawries. Some time ago I was looking over some pages I'd photocopied from the Strathearn Herald. One article from December 4, 1915 caught my eye but frustratingly it had been 'halved' and pieces of text were, obviously, missing. I'd always meant to obtain the full report but had never got round to it. Here it is, as I have it presently!

THREE BROTHERS KILLED
OTHER TWO ACCIDENTALL


Mr and Mrs Henry Lawrie, H
shire, have given their seven
their King and country. Three
have fallen in the present war,
accidentally killed some years a
the Royal Scots Fusiliers, and
accidentally killed a few days
home from training. A sixth
serving, while the remaining son
tated for service owing to a
of his legs.


Now I'm probably way off track but here goes. Two sons in the Army were accidentally killed prior to the Great War? Given the dates and the names on the memorial those kia by the time of the article;

Name: LAWRIE, HENRY
Initials: H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Age: 39
Date of Death: 27/09/1915
Service No: S/1868
Additional information: Son of Henry and Margaret Chapman Lawrie, of Haggs, Bonnybridge, Stirlingshire; husband of Mary J. C. Borland Lawrie, of 36, Baker St., Stirling.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 125 to 127.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: LAWRIE, JOSEPH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 10/05/1915
Service No: 9492
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 42 and 44.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Name: LAWRIE, PETER
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 10th Bn.
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: 10871
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 108 to 112.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Another son was discharged due to serious leg injuries (I wonder what eventually happened to him ?).

Whilst the sixth, still on active service at the time, fell in 1918;

Name: LAWRIE
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 15/11/1918
Service No: S/2928
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: X. F. 23.
Cemetery: TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE

I don't know if the other Thomas Lawrie is connected but discounted him from the immediarte family group;

Name: LAWRIE, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
Unit Text: 15th Bn.
Age: 43
Date of Death: 01/10/1918
Service No: 32560
Additional information: Son of Lhe late Alexander H. and Esther Lawrie; husband of Agnes R. Clouter Howell (formerly Lawrie), of 361, Crown St., South Side, Glasgow. Born at Banton, Kilsyth.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. O. 8.
Cemetery: BELLICOURT BRITISH CEMETERY

Apologies for the long post but, if I am correct, there is quite a story to be told here.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 3 Lawries on the Longcroft Civic Memorial which I think are the three listed in Mark's post above. There is no Civic Memorial in Haggs and Longcroft, although really only comprising of two rows of houses at either side of the road, must have been the best option at the time to erect the Memorial.

See: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1658

Sgt. H. LAWRIE, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
Pte. J. LAWRIE, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders
Cpl. P. LAWRIE, Highland Light Infantry

On Kilsyth Civic Memorial there is a THOMAS LAWRIE

See: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=1067&highlight=kilsyth

Kilsyth, Banton, Banknock, Haggs, Longcroft and Dennyloanhead are all on the same road and none are very far from each other although Kilsyth and Banton are now Lanarkshire and the rest are in Stirlingshire. (At one time though, Banton and Kilsyth were also part of Stirlingshire) Confused

I've added a post to the Longcroft thread linking to this one.

There are also 3 Lawries listed on Stirling Civic Memorial!

See: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=59

Anne


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne,

I had looked for the Lawries on Bonnybridge without success but am glad you have them found them on the Longcroft memorial. This may take Thomas out of the immediate family equation as I would have thought he'd have been on Longcroft also. But then again you never know......
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Built by J & G Mossman, Glasgow.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Duncan McFarlane DCM Reply with quote

Sgt Duncan McFarlane was born and lived in Kilsyth.
He died on the 23rd July 1918, aged 42.
He enlisted in Kilsyth to join the 7/8th Battalion of the Kings Own Scottish Borderers.
His service number was 14712

CWGC: IB 28 Buzancy Military Cemetery.
Son of Duncan and Isabella McFarlane, Rose Cottage, Kelvinhead, Kilsyth
Awarded the DCM

1901 Census Scotland: Kelvinhead Cottage Kilsyth
Duncan 44
Isabella 45
Duncan 24
John 23
James 21
Colin 19
Thomas 17
Isabella 13
Peter 11
Robert 3
George 6
Agnes 3
Margaret 1
All born in Kilsyth
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Andrew Fleming Reply with quote

Andrew Fleming was born in Banknock, Sterlingshire.
He died on the 9th April 1917 in France and Flanders.
He enlisted in Banton, Kilsyth as a private in Princess Louise’s (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) 10th Battalion.
His service number was S/40512.

CWGC: XV N 21 Cabaret-Rouge British Cemetery Souchez .

1901 Census: John and Maggie Fleming were a 29 year old couple with 3 children. Andrew was the eldest, 5 years old.
They lived at Doverstwood, Kilsyth.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Archibald Jarvie Reply with quote

Sergeant Archibald Jarvie was born in Kilsyth and resided in Bothwellhaugh, Lanarkshire.
He enlisted in Glasgow and was in the 2nd Battalion of the Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders.
His service number was 6434 and he died, killed in action, on the 16th January 1917 in Salonika, Greece.
He is buried in the Regional Unit of Kilkis, Central Macedonia, Greece.

CWGC: Doiran Memorial, Greece

1901 Census: Living at 65 Backbrae Street Kilsyth as brother in law to Francis McWhinnie.
Agnes McWhinnie must have been his sister.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: James Jarvie Reply with quote

James Jarvie was born in Kilsyth but lived in Bothwell, Lanarkshire.
He died, killed in action on the 26th September 1914 in France and Flanders.
He enlisted in Glasgow in the Queens Own Cameron Highlanders, 1st battalion.
His service number was 6433. This was the one before Archibald Jarvie.
Could these two have enlisted together?

Find a grave, Dep de Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France.

CWGC: La Ferte-Sous_Jouarre Memorial, France
La Ferte-sous-Jouarre is a small town 66 kilometres to the east of Paris, located on the main road (N3) running east from Paris.
The Memorial is situated in a small park on the south-western edge of the town, on the south bank of the River Marne, just off the main road to Paris.
The Memorial Register is kept at the Town Hall.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:08 pm    Post subject: John Jarvie Reply with quote

T/2/ Lieutenant John Jarvie was in the Kings Own Scottish Borderers.
He died of his wounds on the 17th April 1917.
Son of Archibald and Agnes Miles Jarvie of Craigmalloch, Kilsyth.
He was the husband of Jessie F Gillespie Jarvie of Ingleston, New Cummock Ayrshire.
He was schoolmaster at Glenzier, Canonbie, Dumfrieshire (F 19)

CWGC: John Jarvie aged 30 born in 1887, died 17th April 1917.
St Pol Communal Cemetery Ext, St Pol British Cemetery, St Pol-Sur-Ternoise, France.

1901 Census: Canal Stables, Kilsyth.
Archibald Jarvie 47 b Kilsyth Canal Superintendant
Agnes Jarvie 38 b Kilsyth
John Jarvie 14 b Banisford Sterlingshire
David Jarvie 13
Agnes Jarvie 10
Helen Jarvie 7 b Kilsyth
Archibald Jarvie 4
Christina Jarvie 1
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: James Provan Reply with quote

Private James Provan was in the King's Own Scottish Borderers 1st/5th Bn.
He was aged 27 when he died on the 29th July 1918.
His service No: 242648
Son of Alexander and Ann Provan (nee McFarlane), of Bothkennar Rd., Carronshore, Falkirk. Native of Banton, Kilsyth, Glasgow.

CWGC: IX. E. 10. Raperie British Cemetery, Villemontoire.
Place of birth Kilsyth Stirling
Other latterly 242648 1/5th Bn. K.O.S.B.

SNWM roll Royal Army Medical Corps
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: David Holligan DCM Reply with quote

David Holligan DCM was born in Kilsyth and died on the 26th September 1915 in France and Flanders.
He was a private in the Seaforth Highlanders, (Cross-Shire Buff’s, the Duke of Albany’s) 8th Battalion.
His service number was S/2793.
He died of wounds, Western European Theatre.
Awarded the DCM
DCM LG Vol 16.11. Page 1915 A21 - 16

Remembered Nord Pas de Calais.

In the 1901 Scotland Census the Holligan family consisted of Hugh and Janet and 5 children including David, aged 6 and born in Kilsyth.
Hugh was born in Ayrshire and Janet in Kilsyth.

Also on the Kilsyth Memorial


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