The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: Forglen

We have two sources confirming this memorial's location. One of the sources is the Royal Commission for Ancient and Historic Monuments in Scotland (RCAHMS) and the details are taken from their Canmore database. The other source is the United Kingdom National Inventory of War Memorials (UKNIWM) database

From RCAHMS
http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/pls/portal/newcanmore.newcandig_details_gis?inumlink=163004 (Link will only work if you have registered with Canmore)

Forglen War Memorial
Type of Site: War Memorial
NMRS Number: NJ65SE 57
Map reference: NJ 6830 5188
Parish: Forglen
Council: Aberdeenshire
Former District: Banff And Buchan
Former Region: Grampian

From UKNIWM
UKNIWM Ref No. 8656
http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.8656/fromUkniwmSearch/1

FORGLEN

Address
FORGLEN HALL
B9025
FORGLEN
GRAMPIAN
SCOTLAND

Type: PILLAR/COLUMN
Other Location Details: BESIDE B9025 TURRIFF - ABERCHIRDER ROAD SITE KNOWN AS "PRETTY PLANTINGS"

OS Map Ref: NJ 683 519

Inscription

Components
Component Material(s)
MEMORIAL GRANITE

Physical Description
SQUARE SECTIONED, TAPERING PILLAR WITH DECORATIVE CROWN SHAPED CAPPING, ON CRUCIFORM BASE

Wars Commemorated & People Remembered
FIRST WORLD WAR
Died 18
SECOND WORLD WAR
Died 4

Ceremonies
Date: JUN 1921
Role Performed By
UNVEILING SIR GEORGE ABERCROMBY
Date: JUN 1921
Role Performed By
UNVEILING PIPE-MAJOR FINDLATER

kinnethmont · Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 1649 Location: Aberdeenshire

UKNIWM Ref No. 8656

FORGLEN

Address
FORGLEN HALL
FORGLEN
ABERDEENSHIRE
SCOTLAND

Type: PILLAR/COLUMN
Other Location Details: BESIDE B9025 TURRIFF - ABERCHIRDER ROAD SITE KNOWN AS "PRETTY PLANTINGS"

OS Map Ref: NJ 683 519

The memorial is unusual in that the lettering is in relief and not clearly visible. I have detailed the names below.

WW1

RALPH F ABERCROMBY
ALEXANDER M ALEXANDER
JAMES BAIN
JAMES GAMMIE
JAMES S GEDDES
CHARLES GILES
JAMES GRANT
WILLIAM G HENDERSON
ALLAN J HENDRY
ALEXANDER JOINER
ALEXANDER McDONALD
CHARLES McINNES
PATRICK H McLaren
CHARLES SMITH
WILLIAM A R STUART
ALEXANDER WALKER
WILLIAM WALKER
JOHN T WILSON

WW2

MICHAEL LINDSAY
HARRY L LINDSAY
JAMES A MATHERS
ALEX WALLACE

Date: JUN 1921
Role Performed By
UNVEILING SIR GEORGE ABERCROMBY
Date: JUN 1921
Role Performed By
UNVEILING PIPE-MAJOR FINDLATER, VC

Pipe Major Findlater referred to at the unveiling is Piper George Findlater VC of the Gordon Highlanders and Dargai fame. He was later Pipe-Major of Turriff Pipe Band for many years. He farmed most of his life at Forglen and is buried in the small cemetery there.
_________________
Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk

Adam Brown · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject:

anne park · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: Forglen info

The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round has on page 28 & 29 a list of men from there, only brief details.
I have found that not all the men's names appear on other memorials so will wait before posting info but if anyone needs info contact me. Anne

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: Abercromby Ralph Frank

Abercromby Ralph Frank Royal Engineers Drowned At Sea 07-May-15 Drowned in the sinking of the Lusitania The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 261 Lusitania Memorial Cobh, nr Cork Ireland Forglen & Rothienorman

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: Alexander Morrison Alexander

Alexander Alexander Morrison Gnr 109933 Royal Garrison Artillery b Forglen e Aberdeen Died of Wounds F & F 06-Aug-17 PJ 15-9-17: Photo : Cornheld House, Turriff. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 339 : Occ : Farm Servant. Brandhoek New Military Cemetery, Vlamertinghe B 007 Plot III Row D Grave 8 PJ 15-9-17: Photo Forglen

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject:

Bain James Gnr L/4405 157th Royal Field Artillery e Aberdeen r Banffshire Killed in Action F & F 30-Jul-16 The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 340 : Occ : Farm Servant. Quarry Cemetery, Montauban Fr 0399 Plot II Row J Grave 3

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: Gammie James

Gammie James Pte 186117 8th Canadian Inf (90th Rifles) Manitoba Regt b Southbogton 17/11/1878 e Winnipeg Age 38 Died of Wounds F & F 15-Aug-17 Son of the late Mr & Mrs Alexander Gammie, South Bogton, Aberdeenshire (Forglen) 1881/8/1/ Haughs of Maggie, Marnoch. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 341 : Occ : Teamster in Canada. Vimy Memorial M. R. 23

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Geddes James S

Geddes James Stephen Pte 38295 17th Royal Scots b Clackmannan e Stirling r Clackmannan Age 26 Killed in Action F & F 28-Mar-18 Husband of Helen M Geddes, 24 Dean St; Edinburgh. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 342 Occ : Forester. Pozieres Memorial M. R. 27 Panel 13 & 14

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: Giles Charles

Giles Charles Pte S/21605 9th Seaforth Highlanders b Fyvie e Aberdeen Age 19 Died of Wounds F & F 21-Jul-17 Son of Charles & Elizabeth Giles, Manse of Forglen, Turriff. Born Manse, Millbrex, Fyvie. Formerly TR/1/4719 TR Bn The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 342 Occ : Bank Apprentice. Name maybe under Gibs. North of Scotland Bank Ltd; War Record: page 59 : Photo. Coxyde Military Cemetery B 024 Plot I Row K Grave 10 Forglen & Fyvie

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: Grant James

Grant James Sjt 240167 5th Gordon Highlanders b Turriff e Turriff Age 21 Killed in Action F & F 11-Apr-17 Buchan Observer: "D" Coy 1914: 1542 : Brigend, Forglen, Turriff. Statutory Deaths gives age as 21. 1901 Census : Turriff 247/1/8/39 age 5 : Grandson staying with Mary A McDonald, 9 Mill Rd (Grandmother) The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 342 Occ : Baker. Arras Memorial M. R. 20 Panel 8 & 9

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: William Gordon Henderson

William Gordon Henderson Gnr 7272 157th Royal Field Artillery b Aberdeen Age 33 Died Home 04/11/1916 Son of the late Mr & Mrs John Henderson, Crossroads, Lumphanan. Husband of Catherine Henderson, Forglen Kennels, Turrriff. Newspaper said Cross Brae, Forglen. Also Milton Cottage, Corse, Lumphanan. Father died 12 July 1910. Mother Mary Gordon. 1891 Census: 46d Mount St; Aberdeen. 1901 Census: Occ: Clerk. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 342 Occ : Gamekeeper. Forglen MI 84. Discharged unit 20 Oct 1915 Died at home as result of stress in training. Forglen Old Churchyard U. K. Forglen Grave 24 AJ 06-11-16 P4 EE 07-11-16 P2 AWJ 10-11-16 P8

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: Hendry Allan James

Hendry Allan James Bdr 70345 277th Royal Field Artillery "D" Bty 22 Killed F & F 20-Jul-17 Son of James & Mary Hendry, 42 Balmellie St; Turriff. Native of Forglen, Turriff. Killed at Zillebeke Lake. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 343 Occ : Gamekeeper. Dickebusch New Military Cemetery Extension B 029 Plot III Row E Grave 18

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: Joiner Alexander

Joiner Alexander Cpl 18823 16th Royal Scots b Forglen e Edinburgh r Turriff Age 26 Died of Wounds Germany 26-Jul-16 Son of William & Margaret Joiner, Crossbrae, Forglen, Aberdeenshire. Forglen MI 157. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 343 Occ : Solicitor. Le Cateau Military Cemetery Fr 0716 Plot IV Row A Grave 12

anne park · Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: McDonald Alexander

McDonald Alexander Pte 192564 15th Canadian Inf (Central Ontario Regt) b Turriff 20/12/1890 Age 25 Killed F & F 07-Oct-16 Son of James McDonald, Bridge End, Forglen. Killed on the Somme. Details maybe 92nd Bn. The War Book of Turriff & 12 Miles Round : Page 345 Occ : Farm Servant. Adanac Military Cemetery Fr 0239 Plot I Row E Grave 40