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BLACK WATCH (BOER WAR MEMORIAL), PERTH

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: BLACK WATCH (BOER WAR MEMORIAL), PERTH Reply with quote

This memorial is located within St. Ninian's Cathedral, Perth - the first to be built in Britain since the Reformation. The memorial takes the form of a massive stained glass window with a long brass plaque beneath containing the names of the dead;













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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TO THE GLORY OF GOD
AND IN MEMORY OF THE FOLLOWING OFFICERS
NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICERS AND MEN OF
THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLANDERS), WHO FELL IN
THE SOUTH AFRICA CAMPAIGN, 1899-1900-1901-1902
THIS BRASS IS ERECTED BY THE WOMEN OF THE DIOCESE
AND BY FRIENDS OF THE REGIMENT

MAJOR GENL. ANDREW GILBERT WAUCHOPE, C.B., C.M.G.
LIEUT. COL. JOHN HENRY COLLIER COODE
MAJOR ERNEST MAXWELL WILLSHIRE
CPT THE HON. JAMES FREDERICK THIRLOW CUMMING BRUCE
CAPT & BREVET MAJOR HENRY SCOTT TURNER
CAPT. & ADJ. WILLIAM MACFARLAN
CAPT. ERLE GODFRE ELTON
CAPT. CECIL EYKYN
CAPT. & BREVET MAJOR FREDERICK DYMOKE MURRAY
LIUT. FREDERICK GUTHRIE TAIT
LIEUT. HERBERT CECIL WILLOUGHBY BERTHON
LIEUT. NICHOLAS GIFFORD EDMONDS
LIEUT. NIGEL NEIS RAMSAY
LIEUT. J. G. GRIEVE, PERMANENT STAFF N.S. WALES LAND FORCES
CAPT. STUART ROBERTSON

COL. SERGEANT JOHN MCMILLAN
" " WILLIAM MITCHELL
" " JOSEPH PATTERSON
" " JAMES ROBERTSON
" " DAVID SWAN
SERGEANT - THOMAS GODFREY
" " JOHN MCRONE
" " JOHN TYRIE
" " HERBERT HARRISON
LCE. SERGT. - CHARLES SHARP
" " GEORGE THOMPSON
CORPORAL - JOHN ARMSTRONG
" " GEORGE BALFOUR
" " FREDERICK GEORGE CAMERON
CORPORAL - ALEXANDER JESS
" " JOSEPH HENRY KENNY
LCE. CORPORAL KENNETH CALDWELL
" " ALEXANDER FRASER
" " CHARLES PERCY ROOTE
" " WALTER GREEN SCOTT
" " JAMES SINCLAIR
" " JOHN ROBSON
" " GEORGE ALFRED SOPER
" " THOMAS WARD
" " WILLIAM MITCHELL
DRUMMER - GEORGE BROWN
" " HERBERT JAMES RIDGWELL
" " JAMES SMITH

PRIVATES
JAMES ADAMS
SAMUEL ADAMSON
GEORGE ARCHER
GEORGE ARMIT
WILLIAM AITKENHEAD
JAMES AMES
JAMES ANDERSON
JOHN ARMSTRONG
ROBERT BALMAIN
ALEXANDER BARR
JAMES CAMERON BAYNE
ANDREW MARTIN BETT
PETER BLACK
ALEXANDER BLACK
ROBERT BLACKHALL
WILLIAM BOLTON
FRANK BOND
JOHN MILNE BOYES
JAMES BREMNER
ROBERT BROWN
JOHN BROWNING
GEORGE BUCHANAN
JAMES BRUCE
JAMES BUTCHART
JOHN CAMERON
WILLIAM CAMERON
WILLIAM CAMPBELL
JAMES CANDY
ROBERT CHALMERS
WILLIAM CHRISTIE
JAMES CHRISTIE
HENRY CONNELLY
JAMES COUPAR
DAVID COWLEY
GEORGE COWAN
DAVID COWIE
GEORGE CUMMINGS
WILLIAM CUTHBERT
CHARLES DAVIDSON
MICHAEL DOCHERTY
HARRY DOBLE
DAVID DORWARD
ROBERT DOUGLAS
GEORGE DRYBURGH
WILLIAM DRYSDALE
WILLIAM FARQUHAR
DAVID FRASER
CHARLES FOX
JOHN FOX
WILLIAM GARDINER
PETER GAGAN
JOSEPH FRANCIS GIBBS
JAMES GLENNIE
JOHN DUNCAN GIBSON
DAVID GOW
THOMAS GOWRIE
GEORGE GLASGOW
JAMES GRANT
JAMES GRANT
ROBERT GRAY
ALEXANDER GREIG
RICHARD HALKETT
JAMES HALL
JOHN HARDIE
JAMES HARRIS
WILLIAM HASTIE
ROBERT HENDERSON
DAVID HENDERSON
JAMES HICKIE
DAVID HIGH
WILLIAM HINDLE
DAVID HILL
JOSEPH ALEXANDER HENDERSON
HENRY HOLDEN
ROBERT HOWIE
GEORGE HUNTINGDON
CHARLES JAMES
FREDERICK JOHNSTON
WILLIAM KEDIE
WILLIAM BLACKBURN KING
DAVID KING
ALEXANDER KIDD
JAMES MUDIE
JOHN KIRKWOOD
JAMES LAIRD
PATRICK LAMONT
CHARLES LAUDER
JOHN LEONARD
JAMES MANN
JAMES MASSIE
ADAM MASTERTON
ALFRED MATTHEWS
HUGH MAXWELL
JAMES MCANARNEY
THOMAS MCCONNELL
JOHN MCCOLL
JOHN MCDONALD
WILLIAM MACDONALD
WILLIAM MACLAINE
JAMES MCFARLANE
JOHN MCGREGOR
JOHN MCGREEL
JOHN MCGINN
JAMES MCHARDY
ISAAC MCKNIGHT
JOHN MCMILLAN
PETER MCDIARMID
JAMES MORRIS
THOMAS MOORE
ROBERT MUIR
JAMES MUDIE
LAWRENCE MURRAY
JAMES MULHOLLAND
JOHN OGG
JOHN OERRAL
ALFRED PARKER
JAMES PATTISON
JOHN PERT
ALEXANDER PETRIE
ERNEST REDFEARN
JOHN POWRIE
GEORGE ROBERTSON
GEORGE ROBERTSON
WILLIAM RODGERS
ROBERT RUSSELL
ERNEST GEORGE ROBINS
ANGUS MACKAY ROSS
ANGUS LAMOND SAMPSON
MAURICE SPAREHAM
WILLIAM ANDREW SCOTT
MARK SINCLAIR
AMBROSE SCULLIN
JAMES SHARP
THOMAS SHIRLAW
JOHN GRIEVE SIM
JAMES SINCLAIR
THOMAS SIMPSON
ROBERT SMALL
THOMAS SMITH
JOHN SCOTT
EDWARD HENRY SPICER
FRANK STARK
ROBERT STEVENSON
DAVID STEWART
MAITLAND TAIT
ROBERT TAYLOR
JOSEPH THOMPSON
EDWARD TOLMIE
RICHARD TRUELAND
THOMAS WILLIAM TURKINGTON
WILLIAM WALKER
JAMES WALTON
DAVID WATT
ANDREW WHITEHEAD
JAMES THOMAS WATERMAN
CHARLES WILLIAMS
ROBERT WILSON
JOHN WILSON
JOHN WRIGHT
JOHN YOUNG
THOMAS SPARLING
JOHN HARKINS
JOHN WOODCOCK
PETER RUSSELL
JOSEPH DICKSON
JAMES JACK
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again apologies for the photos. As has been said before the church pics are extremely difficult for a variety of reasons but I almost had to give up with this brass plaque.

I may have to go back to transcribe the words on the window. Even 'zooming in' with the camera was poor due to the window's size.

I was glad to find this one as it had always seemed strange (because I didn't know) that the Black Watch Boer War Memorial was in Edinburgh (even with Wauchope's connection) and nothing in Perthshire. However this lays that to rest. I just wonder how many in the Big County know of its existence?

I suppose the names are the same as the monument on 'The Mound'.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect the names will be the same. However, the statue on the Mound splits them into those who died in action and those who died from disease.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: List of Casualties Reply with quote

The names appear to be the same, however there are a few discrepancies.

1. James Bruce and James Mudie appear on both plates in Edinburgh.

2. Robert Muir in Perth appears to be Robert Moore in Edinburgh.

3. Privates J Duncan, Thomas Duncan, Edward Smith and Alexander Thomson appear in Edinburgh only.

4. Samuel Adamson in Perth but Samuel Allison in Edinburgh.

5. James Walton in Perth but William in Edinburgh.

6. Privates John Browning, Charles Davidson, Richard Halkett and John McDonald in Perth are Lance Corporals in Edinburgh.

7. James Pattison in Perth but Patterson in Edinburgh.

Or is it the Vodka?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: James Mudie Reply with quote

There were TWO Private James Mudie's who died during the Boer War

Pte 7238 James Wyllie Neish Mudie (my Great Uncle) died after being shot in the spine during an attack in Pretoria in June 1900

Pte 4919 James Mudie died of Enteric Fever in April 1902

That is why there are names are on both panels

Jame's brother John Knight Mudie moved to Australia and was killed on the first day of the Galipolli landings as part of the 9th Bn, Australian Infantry. My Grandfather, Walter Nicoll Mudie, was injured in Palestine during the 3rd Battle of Gaza whilst serving with the Black Watch
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PK

Many thanks for clearing up the matter over the two Black Watch men with the name James Mudie.

I see from the website below that John Knight Mudie had a Scottish connection. He was born in Dundee in 1889 and joined the Australian Army soon after war was declared in August 1914.

http://lrd.co.nz/history/202.html

MUDIE, JOHN
Initials: J
Nationality: Australian
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F.
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Date of Death: 25/04/1915
Service No: 947
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 31.
Memorial: LONE PINE MEMORIAL

And a Private John Mudie AIF is listed on the St. Mary Magdalene/HolyTrinity War Memorial, Dundee: http://www.fdca.org.uk/WarMemorialsMe-My.pdf

Thanks

Adam
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep - that's my site Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unveiled by General Sir Archibald Hunter on Tuesday 5th of May 1903.
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