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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: ALLOA Reply with quote

This is one of my favourite memorials. I like how the style of the base echoes the earlier South African memorial in the town, but it's the figures on this one that I particularly like.

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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The inscriptions on the memorial itself:

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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The names are recorded on panels on the back wall:

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I hope I load these in the right order. First World War:

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Second World War:

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David McNay
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small word of warning. the first time I visited this memorial there were a couple of unsavoury types using the trees on either side of the memorial garden as a sheltering spot while they drank their cans of cheap lager. They may not have bothered me at all, but I decided not to take that chance....
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a cracking memorial.
Anyone any idea of the sculptor? Could it be another Carrick?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David,

I concur with Derek. There's just something about the memorial that draws me in. Mind you they all do I suppose.

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Mark
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek the memorial was designed by Sir Robert Lorimer and the sculptor was Pilkington Jackson who was also responsible for the Bruce Equestrian at Bannockburn and the WWII Royal Scots Fusilier in Ayr among other works. The Alloa memorial was unveiled on Sunday 9th September 1924 and a Book of Remembrance was also lodged in the Library.
Unfortunately it looks in the photos like its had a paint job, you can see some of the bronze green patina coming through on the soldier's bayonet, pity they didn't just clean up the bronze as the paint makes it look more like a fibre-glass model.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: CUTHBERT, DAVID WILSON HARPER
Initials: D W H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 25
Date of Death: 09/04/1917
Additional information: Son of James Cuthbert (Town Clerk of Alloa), and Janie Christie Cuthbert, of "Claremont," Alloa, Clackmannanshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. L. 5.
Cemetery: DUISANS BRITISH CEMETERY, ETRUN

BLAIRGOWRIE ADVERTISER: 18/08/1917
KILLED:-
Second Lieut. D.W.H Cuthbert (grandson of the late Mr David Christie, Cromwell Villa, Blairgowrie)
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me if this casualty is commemorated here:
Name: STARKEY, THOMAS
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps
Unit Text: 46th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 21/10/1918
Service No: 18358
Additional information: Son of William and Ann Starkey, of Alloa; husband of Catherine Scobie Starkey, of Glenannie Cottage, Blackford, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. E. 7.
Cemetery: TOURGEVILLE MILITARY CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The image on here is too small to make out but on examination it appears he might not be. I'll confirm tonight when I can check my original picture.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited this memorial on a crisp Autumn morning and it was too good a chance to pass up getting some more photographs of a stunning memorial.

No undesirables in the bushes this time I'm glad to say, just a local council employee keeping up the well maintained flower beds.























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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some close ups of the inscription of the rear of the base. I'd be interested to know if the local library still has a copy of the roll of honour.













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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here are my images of the name plaques. Unfortunately photobucket has not done them any favours.






















I will not add my Second World War panel photograhs because David's are clear in a previous post
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhubthaigh wrote:
Can anyone tell me if this casualty is commemorated here:

STARKEY, THOMAS
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps
Unit Text: 46th Bn.
Age: 26
Date of Death: 21/10/1918
Service No: 18358
Additional information: Son of William and Ann Starkey, of Alloa; husband of Catherine Scobie Starkey, of Glenannie Cottage, Blackford, Perthshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. E. 7.
Cemetery: TOURGEVILLE MILITARY CEMETERY


He's not listed under MGC or Royal Scots sections on this memorial I'm afraid

STARKEY Thomas
Service Number 18358
Date Death 21/10/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Alloa Clackmannan
Other formerly 13426 R. Scots.
SNWM roll MACHINE GUN CORPS
Rank Sgt
Theatre of death F.& F.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark - I presume you know he's on Blackford?

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