The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project Forum Index The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project
(Registered Scottish Charity No. SC043826). Please visit our homepage at www.scottishmilitaryresearch.co.uk
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

RATTRAY, BOER WAR MEMORIAL

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project Forum Index -> Perth & Kinross - Civic Memorials
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dhubthaigh
Our first ever 1000-poster


Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 5102
Location: Blairgowrie, Perthshire

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: RATTRAY, BOER WAR MEMORIAL Reply with quote

This single memorial to two men is located inside Rattray Parish Church. It is the only memorial in the locality, that I know of, commemorating casualties of the Great Boer War. Peter Butchart's grandson still lives opposite the church itself.



Last edited by dhubthaigh on Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:56 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dhubthaigh
Our first ever 1000-poster


Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 5102
Location: Blairgowrie, Perthshire

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


3030 Pte. Butchart, James (Rattray)
Enlisted 1884. Transferred to Reserve 1892. Re-Enlisted 1899. Died at sea on way to South Africa, Feb. 1900.

9039 Pte. Petrie, Alexander (Rattray)
5th Vol. Batt. Served in South African War with 2nd Vol. Service Coy., 1901-1902 (Queen's Medal, with clasps "Cape Colony, "Orange Free State", "South Africa 1901" and "South Africa 1902". Died at Standerton, Jan. 3 1902.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Adam Brown
Curator


Joined: 14 Dec 2006
Posts: 7356
Location: Edinburgh (From Sutherland)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should this be listed under individual or civic?

Were these the only two men from Blairgowrie or were they both from this church?

Regards

Adam
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
dhubthaigh
Our first ever 1000-poster


Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 5102
Location: Blairgowrie, Perthshire

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
Should this be listed under individual or civic?

Were these the only two men from Blairgowrie or were they both from this church?

Regards

Adam


Yes, having looked again I do think civic - Erected by Parishioners and Friends. It will definately be Rattray Boer War as Blairgowrie & Rattray were separate parishes/burghs up until the 1930's. There is nothing for the Boer War in Blairgowrie. I've amended this to civic and deleted the individual links. Will be interesting if I can find the unveiling report in the newspaper.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kinnethmont



Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 1663
Location: Aberdeenshire

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: War Memorials Reply with quote

Quote:
Yes, having looked again I do think civic - Erected by Parishioners and Friends.


I would say it is early days for promoting this as a Civil Memorial, unless the kirk records of all faiths and other local sources have been fully checked out. Is it posible to see a close up of the section of the panel above the text?

I agree, it may be likely that there were only two casualties at Rattray and that both were adherants of the Established Kirk. However, it is also entirely possible there were six casualties, four of whom had no faith, and this panel was hung in Rattray Free Kirk when it was new and moved to the Established Kirk after Unification. As happened on many occasions, due to the fabric of the buildings, it is possible that what was the Free Kirk in 1890 may be the buiding used by the Established Kirk now.

Also possible is that this is the Established Kirk one and and the Free Kirk one is missing or never created.

I am not well familiar with the area but know that Blairgowrie and Rattary are neighbours. A quick check reveals there were apparently two Free Kirks, a Congregational and a United Presbyterian Kirk at Blairgowrie. This could create four different sets of "parishioners and friends " there.
_________________
Jim

If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

www.kinnethmont.co.uk
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
stuartn



Joined: 13 Dec 2016
Posts: 2345

PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:12 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) report Reply with quote

WMR 82914
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project Forum Index -> Perth & Kinross - Civic Memorials All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. Hosted by phpBB.BizHat.com