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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Cairnryan Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 44396

Location: the memorial is set into the inside wall of the village cemetery at OS Map Ref NX 062 689. This is a bit unusual for a civic memorial being in the form of a stone tablet and also its location. While this protection has undoubtedly saved it from the ravages of seaspray, it is a pity that it is not in a more prominent position such as anywhere along the sea front. There is a large tourist lay-by/picnic spot just about 30 yards away and is the best place to park.

WW1 Names:
McHARRIE R CAPTAIN R S FUSILIERS
MOIR A G LIEUTENANT A&S HIGHLANDERS
MOIR A D RN MIDSHIPMAN HMS MARLBOROUGH
ROSS W LIEUTENANT H L INFANTRY
KIRKLAND J L CORPORAL A&S HIGHLANDERS
BELL A PRIVATE LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS
DOWNIE J PRIVATE ROYAL SCOTS
EDMONDS W PRIVATE ROYAL ENGINEERS
ION A PRIVATE SCOTS GUARDS
MILROY T PRIVATE 49 CANADIAN REGIMENT
NEIL A TROOPER QOR GLAGOW YEOMANRY
PRESTON S PRIVATE ROYAL FUSILIERS
TRUEMAN G PRIVATE H L INFANTRY
TRUEMAN A SIGNALLER R F ARTILLERY
TRUEMAN W PRIVATE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS

WW2 Names:
DORMAN W J CAPTAIN MBE SCOTS GUARDS

A and G Trueman were brothers but I can find no trace of W Trueman.
Name: TRUEMAN
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: "A" Bty. 306th Bde.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 27/08/1918
Service No: 831773
Additional information: Son of Mrs. Thorburn, of Drummuddloch, Cairmyan, Stranraer. Born at Kirkmaiden.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. C. 14.
Cemetery: AIRE COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Name: TRUEMAN, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 14th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 14/06/1916
Service No: 29068
Additional information: Son of Annie Thorburn (formerly Trueman), of Drummuckloch, Stranraer, Wigtownshire. Born at Port Logan, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 22.
Cemetery: VERMELLES BRITISH CEMETERY



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think this could be your missing Trueman?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5829851&queryType=1&resultcount=3

As you can see he ended his service with the ASC:

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=521516

No mention of family on his entry strangely enough.

Barrie

Edit - Just realised his date of death coincides with A Trueman Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are right that this is the third Trueman.

Name: TRUEMAN
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 1st Base Mechanical Transport Depot
Date of Death: 27/08/1918
Service No: M/331969
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Q. V. H. 16.
Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN

SNWM shows him as born in Stranraer. Don't know if he was a brother or cousing or what but what are the chances of 2 Truemans from the same town dying on the same day? They are buried in different cemetaries so I am not sure that they were together when they died. Would love to know the story though.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wigtownshire Free Press has been indexed, so it should make uncovering the story more straight forward. I think the indexes are held at Castle Douglas Library (definitely at the Ewart, Dumfries) and the paper is availabe on microfiche.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did not find the story behind them dying on the same day but I found this item in the Wigtownshire Free Press of 24th Feb 1916 to confirm that they were brothers.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to RCAHMS "This war memorial was formerly located on the outside window ledge of the porch of the church."

See also the Lochryan Parish Church memorial at http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5801
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject: Trueman Brothers Reply with quote

The three Truemans were brothers - two did die on the same day from wounds but in different places. William is also named on Leswalt memorial since he had worked on a farm there. Their sister Annie is named on the Cairnryan Roll of Honour which was unveiled/rededicated on Saturday 17th September 2011 after many years in storage.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Trueman Brothers Reply with quote

daftcatdarcy wrote:
...the Cairnryan Roll of Honour which was unveiled/rededicated on Saturday 17th September 2011 after many years in storage.


Do have any more details about where the Roll has been and where it is now?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Trueman Brothers Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:
daftcatdarcy wrote:
...the Cairnryan Roll of Honour which was unveiled/rededicated on Saturday 17th September 2011 after many years in storage.


Do have any more details about where the Roll has been and where it is now?

Thanks

Adam

That will be the Lochryan Church memorial http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5801&highlight=lochryan which has been in the archive store of Stranraer Museum. I knew it was to be relocated and I had asked to be informed so that I could attend the ceremony - so much for that. I think it is at the Cairnryan ferry terminal somewhere but it will be a few weeks before I can get across there to check it out.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gallipolian Autumn 2012
The Journal of the Gallipoli Association




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEIL, A
Rank:Private
Service No:2425
Date of Death:17/11/1915
Age:19
Regiment/Service:Glasgow Yeomanry (Queen's Own Royal)
Grave Reference: III. B. 14.
Cemetery: PINK FARM CEMETERY, HELLES
Additional Information: Son of Andrew and Clementina Neil, of 7, Bogton Avenue, Muirend, Cathcart, Glasgow. Of Stranraer.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pte. ADAM ION.
Adam Ion, Private (10529) 2nd Bn. Scots Guards. Formerly Private (4137) Scots Guards. Age 36.
Born 1882 at Kirroughtree, Minnigaff. Son of Thomas Parr Ion and of Jessie (McGowan) Ion of Stronord, Palnure, Minnigaff. Husband of Agnes (McKie - m.s. Herron) Ion who he married in 1911 in Stranraer. Adam enlisted in the Scots Guards in November 1901 and , after his time expired, he became a policeman with the Wigtownshire Constabulary. He was based at Cairnryan when he enlisted in September 1914.
Killed in action 9 October 1917 and buried in Artillery Wood Cemetery, Belgium. Also listed on the Minnigaff Parish War Memorial with his brother

Pte. JOHN ION.
John Anthony Ion, Private (931550) 2nd Bn. Canadian Mounted Rifles. Age 33.
Missing in action 30 October 1917 and listed on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MILROY, T. Private 49. CANADIAN REGIMENT.

I don't know why he's listed here but he's is listed on the New Luce Memorial. (but see below)
Thomas Milroy, Private (252132) 49th Battalion, Canadian Infantry. Age 31.
Born 1886 in Inch, Wigtownshire. Son of Thomas and Mary (Murray) Milroy of High Mark, New Luce. Thomas was farming at Cantuar near Swift Current, Saskatchewan when he enlisted in January 1916.
Killed in action 30 October 1917 and buried in Poelcapelle British Cemetery, Ypres, Belgium.
Also listed on the Inch Parish War Memorial, Wigtownshire.

Looking at the maps High Mark Farm is probably closer to Cairnryan than it is to it's "formal" address of New Luce. It's actually closer to Ballantrae in Ayrshire than to the others.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit more on one of the three Trueman brothers in the 30/6/1916 edition of the Wigtownshire Free Press:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: PRESTON, SAMUEL
Initials: S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service No: SP/2186
Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers, 24th Bn
Date of Death: 13/11/1916
Panel Reference: Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A.
Memorial: Thiepval Memorial
Wigtownshire Free Press (7/12/1916):

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