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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Sorbie Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 44421

Location – on Garlieston seafront next to the bowling green at OS Map Ref NX 478 464. Please note that there is also a memorial in the hamlet of Sorbie but confusingly it is this one in Garlieston that is the Sorbie memorial. The one in Sorbie itself is for Upper Sorbie!!











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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done my best with the transcription but this memorial has quite a problem with oxidation (?) on the lead lettering (probably from the sea air) and the Gs and Cs are particularly difficult.

WW1 Names:
K O SCOTTISH BORDERERS
PTE JOHN EDGAR
PTE JAMES GULLINE
PTE PETER GULLINE
PTE JOHN MAXWELL
PTE JOHN NEIL
LCPL THOMAS ORR
PTE SAM SCOTT
LCPL ROBT THOMSON
PTE PETER WATT

R SCOTS FUSILIERS
PTE JAS CAMPBELL
PTE WILLIAM HANNAH
PTE GEO MARSHALL
PTE ROBT MARSHALL
PTE DOUGLAS McCALLIE
PTE WILLM ROBB
PTE ROBERT THOMSON

ROYAL SCOTS
CPL JAMES FLEMING
PTE JOHN KENNEDY
PTE SAM McCLURE
PTE GEORGE McKIE

SCOTTISH RIFLES
PTE ANDW McCALLUM
SGT HUGH McMEEKING
CQMS WM McMEEKING
SIG R W STRAITON

SCOTS GUARDS
SGT ROBERT BARRY
PTE ALEXANDER GIBB

CAMERON HIGHLDRS
PTE ROBERT GULLINE
PTE GEORGE KIRK
PTE SAM McCLUNE
LCPL PETER SMITH

BLACK WATCH
PTE ROBERT HUGHES
PTE CHARLES KERR

HLI
PTE JOHN W McGREADIE
PTE FRED KIRK

GORDON HDRS
SGT ALEXR McLELLAN

A&S HDRS
PTE JOHN MILLIGAN

SEAFORTH HDRS
LIEUT STUART M McMONNIES

LONDON SCOTTH
CPL JAMES ORR

R MARINE LI
PTE DOUGLAS R M HANNAY

R G ARTLRY
PTE BAIRD KIRK

R NAVAL DIVN
AB DAVID McGLUNE

NEW ZEALANDERS
SGT DAVID S CAVEN

CANADIANS
PTE JOHN D HANNAY
PTE JAMES A HIGHET
LCPL A M MILROY

AUSTRALIANS
CPL JAMES SMITH

MERCANTILE MARINE
CAPT JAMES STEVENSON
CADET ALEX HILL

WW2 Names:
PRIVATE DOUGLAS WILLIAMS K O S BORDERERS
STOKER ALEX NICHOLSON ROYAL NAVY
SERGT (NAVIGATOR) DAVID R HYSLOP
SERGT (AIR GUNNER) WM McC LATIMER ROYAL AIR FORCE

Korean Name:
CPL J R CRON 1ST K O S BORDERERS

Name: HYSLOP, DAVID RAE
Initials: D R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Nav./Bomber)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 37 Sqdn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 10/04/1945
Service No: 1568361
Additional information: Son of Robert and Elizabeth Hyslop, of Garlieston, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: IX. D. 5.
Cemetery: BARI WAR CEMETERY

Name: LATIMER, WILLIAM MCCREADIE
Initials: W M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 199 Sqdn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 17/06/1944
Service No: 1570743
Additional information: Son of George C. and Mary Latimer, of Garlieston, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 233.
Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

Type Short Stirling
Serial Number LJ531
Squadron 199
X1D EX-N
Operation Mandrel
Airborne 2219 16Jun44 from North Creake tasked to provide a Mandrel screen (an airborne radar jamming system) to cover for the Sterkrade Main Force raid. Lost without trace. All are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. F/S Lofhouse was the specialist operator. These were the first casualties since 199 Sqdn joined 100 Group. P/O T.W.Dale RNZAF KIA Sgt J.M.Watts KIA P/O R.J.Whittlestone RNZAF KIA F/S K.M.F.Swadling KIA W/O F.C.Brittain KIA F/S P.Lofthouse KIA Sgt J.C.Higginbottom KIA Sgt W.McC Latimer KIA "

Cpl Cron’s entry on the Korean War Roll of Honour http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bkvaroh/ROH/FilesP/1149.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Korean Name:
CPL J R CRON 1ST K O S BORDERERS


Surname: CRON
Forenames/Initials: James Ritchie
Rank: Cpl
Service: Army
Service Number: 14475537
Regiment/Corps: KOSB
Date of Birth: 11 June 1922
Age: 29
Date of Death: 03 October 1951
Cemetery Name: UN Memorial
Cemetery Address: Pusan, Korea
Grave Section: 24
Grave Row: 12
Grave Number: 1829
Included on Armed Forces Memorial: Yes
Included on Roll of Honour: Yes
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEORGE KIRK is also listed on the Kells Parish WM in New Galloway.
CWGC states that he was born at Burnhead Dalry but both SNWM and his birth records show tht he was born in 1894 in Creetown, Kirkmabreck Parish. SDGW has him as resident in Dalry. In 1911 the family were in Garlieston.

Name: KIRK, GEORGE
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: between 09/04/1917 and 12/04/1917
Service No: S/13369
Additional information: Son of James and Mary J. Kirk, of The Crescent, Garlieston, Wigtonshire. Born at Burnhead, Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XVII. J. 19.
Cemetery: CABARET-ROUGE BRITISH CEMETERY, SOUCHEZ
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gulline's are the only 3 with this name on the CWGC and SNWM WW1 databases.


Name: GULLINE, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 13/10/1917
Service No: 203481
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Gulline, of High St., Garlieston; husband of Mrs. A. B. Gulline, of Church St., Garlieston, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 66 to 68.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL
SNWM born Garlieston.

Name: GULLINE, PETER
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 1st/5th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Service No: 1474
Additional information: Son of Peter Gulline, of Church St., Garlieston, Wigtownshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 84 to 92 or 220 to 222.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL
SNWM born Sorbie.

Name: GULLINE
Initials: R (Robert)
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 16/08/1916
Service No: S/20936
Additional information: Husband of H. Gulline, of Abbotsford, Dunblane.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VII. E. 23.
Cemetery: CATERPILLAR VALLEY CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL
SNWM born Sorbie.

JAMES and ROBERT were brothers - See family grave Sorbie Old Churchyard at http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-ftopic694-0-asc-15.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:36 am    Post subject: Pte. James Campbell Reply with quote

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WW1
R. SCOTS FUSILIERS
Pte. Jas. Campbell


(Glasgow Herald 14th Dec 1914)
"News has been received by Mrs Campbell, Penkiln, Garlieston, Wigtownshire, that her son James, aged 22 years, a Private in the Royal Scots Fusliers, has been killed in action near Ypres."

Confirmed as the correct casualty by war Return for age and location of death.

CWGC
Name: CAMPBELL, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 10589
Date of Death: 31/10/1914
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 19 and 33.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

SNWM
Surname: CAMPBELL
Firstname: James
Service Number: 10589
Date Death: 31/10/1914
Place of birth: Sorbie Wigtownshire
Other: 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank: Pte
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Pte 31133 John Walker McCreadie 14 Bn HLI Reply with quote

spoons wrote:

HLI
PTE JOHN W McGREADIE


A small mis-spelling "G" for a "C".

CWGC
Name: McCREADIE
Initials: J
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 14th Bn
Age: 33
Date of Death: 24/04/1917
Service No: 31133
Additional information: Son of William and Jane McCreadie; husband of Maggie McCreadie, of Main St., Port William, Wigtownshire. Native of Garlieston.
Grave Reference: IV. L. 4.
Cemetery: FINS NEW BRITISH CEMETERY, SOREL-LE-GRAND

SNWM
Surname: McCREADY [Birth record shows McCREADIE]
Firstname: John
Service Number: 31133
Date Death: 24/04/1917
Place of birth: Dalmellington Ayrshire [Birth record shows Garlieston, Wigtownshire]
Other: 14th Bn.
SNWM roll: THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
Rank: Pte

JOHN WALKER McCREADIE was born on 3rd June, 1884, at Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire.
His parents were William McCreadie, an agricultural labourer, and Jane Walker or McCreadie.

His parents were married on 5th July, 1877, at Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire.
His paternal grandparents were James McCreadie, a Carter, and Janet McDowal O.
His maternal grandparents were James Walker, an agricultural labourer, and Isabella Leggerwood.

In the 1891 census, John McCreadie, now age 6, was living with his family at 15 High Row, Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire.

In the 1901 census, John McCreadie, now age 17, was living and working away from his family at Cassencary, Kirkmabreck, Kirkcudbrightshire.
In the 1901 census, his parents and family were living at Harbour Lodge, Garlieston, Wigtownshire

On 12th June, 1908, John Walker McCreadie, age 24, and Maggie Millar Adair, age 20, were married at Killantrae, Mochrum, Wigtownshire.

On 3rd December, 1908, a son William McCreadie was born at Garlieston.
On 27th October, 1910, another son Douglas McCreadie was born at Killantrae, Mochrum, Wigtownshire.
Unfortunately, on 20th November, 1910, the infant Douglas McCreadie died at Garliestown, Sorbie, Wigtownshire.

In the 1911 census, John McCreadie, now age 26, was living with his wife and son at 16 Extreme Point, Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire.

John Walker McCreadie, Robert Lang (my grandfather), and 10 others died on 24th April, 1917, at Villers-Plouich, France.
John Walker McCreadie ‘Died of Wounds’ and was 32 years and 10 months old on 24th April, 1917.

The following link is to a website dedicated to the 14th Battalion HLI and the specific page for John Walker McCreadie:
http://www.14hli.co.uk/died/mccreadie.html

EDIT: The owner of the 14th HLI website has made some recent changes that have caused my links to 'break'.
The information is still there in a new format at: http://www.14hli.co.uk/fallen/died/honourm.html
Kindest Regards,
Tom Lang.
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Remembering my grandfather Pte 37091 Robert Lang 14th Bn HLI, killed in action 24 Apr 1917 at Gouzeaucourt, France.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom, that is great information - all goes to ensure that these men are 'not forgotten'.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The date 1941 and the name JOHN HAMISH MALET-WARDEN Sergeant Pilot, RAF has been added to the first panel of the memorial.
See http://www.lostancestors.eu/memwar/G/Garlieston.htm

He is named on a family grave in Challoch (All Saints) Churchyard near Newton Stewart.
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=886

MALET-WARDEN, JOHN HAMISH
Rank:Sergeant
Trade:Pilot
Service No:989146
Date of Death:17/08/1941
Regiment/Service:Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
78 Sqdn.
Grave ReferenceColl. grave 12. B. 1-3.
CemeteryJONKERBOS WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:

I don't know when his name was added (post 2007) or why.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JOHN HAMISH MALET-WARDEN is remembered on the Douglas Ewart High School Memorial in Newton Stewart
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5394

and on the Challoch (All Saints) Episcopal Church WW2 Memorial
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=4747

Thanks to former Squadron Leader Denis Sawden of Newton Stewart for the background to the addition of Malet-Warden's name to this memorial.
A couple of years ago members of the congregation of Challoch Church researched the names of the WW2 memorial and found that only Malet-Warden was not remembered on any local civic memorial.

John Hamish had come to Wigtownshire in the 1930's with his mother and other siblings after the breakdown of his parents' marriage. They lived in a house on the Galloway House Estate in Garlieston - at that time owned by Lady Forteviot, a former school friend of John Hamish's mother.
John Hamish attended the Douglas Ewart High School and was a member of the local Air Cadets.

The Sorbie Parish War Memorial in Garlieston seemed the most appropriate location and so his name was added there.

Thanks also to John Hamish's extended family in Ireland and in the UK, not least for their introduction to Denis Sawden.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New polished granite name panels have been added to the memorial.












I have brought this posting forward from page 3.

Kenneth Morrison wrote:
I have only just noticed that in renewing the panels two KOSB men appear to have been missed off.
L/CPL. THOMAS ORR and PTE. SAM SCOTT

I will make some enquires.


The two missing names have now been added to the panel.
It's a pity that the lettering is slightly different but ......


A big thank you to Lynn Morley for the photos.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Kenneth Morrison"]New polished granite name panels have been added to the memorial.

Hello Kenneth,
Thank you very much for posting the new pictures.
Kindest Regards,
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Sgt. ROBERT BARRY, SCOTS GUARDS.
Robert Barry, Segeant (10323) 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards. Attached to the Guards Trench Mortar Battery. Age 25.
Robert was a constable in the City of Glasgow's Southern Division and was living at Cathcart Road, Glasgow when he enlisted in September 1914. He was serving with the 1st Scots Guards when he was wounded in early March 1915. He was awarded the Italian Bronze Medal for Military Valour in May 1917.
Born 1892 in Creetown, Kirkmabreck, Kirkcudbrightshire - as Robert Barray. Son of Patrick and Agnes (Kennedy) Barray of Main Street, Kirkcowan. Husband of Mary (Kennedy) Barry [his cousin] of Burnside Cottage, Garlieston, Sorbie, Wigtownshire who he married in 1917 in Sorbie.
Died of wounds on 31 October 1917 and buried in Etaples Military Cemetery, France.
Also named on the Kirkcowan War Memorial, on the City of Glasgow Police Memorial and on the Glasgow Roll of Honour.


Pte. JAS. CAMPBELL, R. SCOTS FUSILIERS.
James Campbell, Private (10589) 2nd Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Age 22.
James was a farm servant when he enlisted in November 1912. He had served in Africa and at Gibraltar. His battalion returned to the UK and landed at Zeebrugge on 6 October 1914. At the end of the month he was killed at Ypres.
Born 1892 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of James and Eliza (Galloway) Campbell of Penkiln, Garlieston.
Missing in action on 31 October 1914 and named on the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial, Belgium.


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Sgt. DAVID S. CAVEN, NEW ZEALANDERS.
David Sinclair Caven, Corporal (22207) 2nd Battalion, Otago Regiment, New Zealand Expeditionary Force. Age 25.
David emigrated to New Zealand about five years before and was a Police Constable in the Mounted Police at Whatawhata near Hamilton on the North Island when he enlisted. He sailed from Wellington in October 1916, landing at Plymouth in December 1916, and was posted to his battalion in France in March 1917.
Born 1892 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of John and Mary Caven of Garlieston.
Missing in action on 12 October 1917 and named on the New Zealand Apse of the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.


Pte. JOHN EDGAR, K.O. SCOTTISH BORDERERS.
John Edgar, Private (1479 & 240281) 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 20.
John was just 17 and an apprentice joiner at Galloway House Sawmill when he enlisted in August 1914. He joined his battalion in Egypt and was wounded in the summer of 1917.
Born 1897 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of Hugh and Jane (Blain) Edgar of Extreme Point, Garlieston.
Killed in action on 13 November 1917 and buried in Ramleh War Cemetery, Israel.


Cpl. JAMES FLEMING, ROYAL SCOTS.
James Wylie Fleming, Lance Corporal (376117) 11th Battalion, Royal Scots. Age 26.
Born 1891 in Leswalt, Wigtownshire - as James Wylie. Son of Maggie Wylie. On the 1901 census he is at Stannock Farm, Whithorn as the son of David Fleming. He was a policeman with Wigtownshire Constabulary and as James Wylie Fleming he married Grace McWilliam McNally of Auchencloy Farm, Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire in 1916.
Missing in action on 12 October 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.


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Pte. ALEXANDER GIBB, SCOTS GUARDS.
Alexander Gibb, Private (12009) 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards. Age 23.
Alexander was a shepherd when he enlisted in November 1914.
Born 1893 in Glasgow. Son of the late Robert George Gibb and of Agnes (Heron) Gibb, later Mrs. James McClumpha of Palmallet Farm Garlieston. Husband of Ruth (Rank) Gibb of Peabody Estate, Stamford Street, London who he married in 1916 in Chelsea.
Died of wounds on 23 July 1916 and buried in Poperinghe New Military Cemetery, Belgium.


Pte. PETER GULLINE, K.O. SCOTTISH BORDERERS.
Peter Gulline, Private (1474) 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 18.
Peter was working in the meal mill in Garlieston when he enlisted. He landed with his battalion at Gallipoli in June 1915.
Born 1896 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of Peter and Maggie (Richardson) Gulline of Church Street, Garlieston.
Missing in action on 12 July 1915 and named on the Helles Memorial, Gallipoli, Turkey


Pte. JAMES GULLINE, K.O. SCOTTISH BORDERERS.
James Gulline, Private (203481) 6th Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers. Age 35.
James was a gardener with Sir William Dunbar at Mochrum Park. He served with the 5th KOSB on Home defence for three years before being posted to the 6th KOSB on the Western Front.
Born 1882 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of Robert and Martha Jane (Gray) Gulline of High Street, Garlieston. Husband of Agnes Biggan (Lowrie) Gulline of Church Street, Garlieston who he married in 1910 in Sorbie.
Missing in action on 13 October 1917 and named on the Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium.

and his brother

Pte. ROBERT GULLINE, CAMERON HIGHL'D'RS.
Robert Gulline, Private (S/20936) 1st Battalion, Cameron Highlanders. Age 37.
Robert worked as a blacksmith and shoeing smith in Garlieston when he sought to enlist as T3/8840 in the Army Service Corps in September 1915. However he failed to pass a trade test and was discharged. He was posted to the Cameron Highlanders in France in December 1915.
[The local newspaper reported that he had been a seaman and had served on a Patrol Boat prior to enlisting in September 1915 but I have not been able to confirm that]
Born 1879 in Garlieston, Sorbie. Son of Robert and Martha Jane (Gray) Gulline of High Street, Garlieston. Husband of Margaret Henrie (Lyons) Gulline of Church Street, Garlieston who he married in 1914 in Sorbie.
Killed in action on 16 August 1916 and buried in Caterpillar Valley Cemetery, Longueval, France.


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