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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Parton Church Great War Reply with quote

UKNIWM 44437
Grid Ref NX 69699 69923

Location inside Parton Church

Names:
LCE CPL GEORGE ALEXANDER 6TH BATTN GORDON HIGHLANDERS
CPL P BOYD CANADIAN INFANTRY
CLR SERGT M CLANAHAN AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY
GR A B B DAVIDSON ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY
PTE T GRACIE
PTE JAMES HANNAH 1ST BATTN GORDON HIGHLANDERS
PTE W HUNTER 5TH BATTN KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
LT COL A S W MOFFAT 2ND BATTN BORDER REGIMENT
CPL A M MORRISON 25TH AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY
LCE CPL H RENNIE 1ST BATTN SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
PTE W SPOWAGE 8TH BATTN KING’S OWN YORKSHIRE LIGHT INFRY
CAPTN A J SANDERSON 1ST BATTN KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
SERGT J TODD 7TH BATTN KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
SPR A A THOMPSON ROYAL ENGINEERS
PTE G THOMPSON 2ND BATTN ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
PTE W WINDSOR 7TH BATTN SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
SERGT S WATSON DCM 1ST BATTN KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
CPL A S WATSON 6TH BATTN SCOTTISH HORSE
2ND LT J WEDDERBURN MAXWELL 6TH BATTN KING’S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an unusual design for a memorial. It's like a marble design but made out of wood.

I like it though.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things sturck me here.

"FOR OUR TOMORROW THESE GAVE THEIR TODAY"

I thought - its a Great War memorial and its a a Second World War type epitaph (Kohima)!
I did a bit of googling and found this;

"When You Go Home, Tell Them Of Us And Say,
For Their Tomorrow, We Gave Our Today"

The words are attributed to John Maxwell Edmonds (1875 -1958), an English Classicist, who had put them together among a collection of 12 epitaphs for World War One, in 1916.


I, obviously, never knew that but very interesting - I'd always connected the phrase to WW2.

Also there is no Batt./Regt. under Pte. T. Gracie?
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bet for Gracie would be this man. No relatives detail on CWGC.

Surname GRACIE
Firstname Thomas G
Service Number 32293
Date Death 28/03/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Dumfries
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: WEDDERBURN-MAXWELL, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 3rd Bn. attd. 6th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 01/10/1918
Additional information: Youngest son of Helen Mary Godfrey Wedderburn-Maxwell, of Glenlair, Dalbeattie Kirkcudbrightshire, and the late Maj. James Andrew Colville Wedderburn-Maxwell (Bengal Staff Corps). Educated at Charterhouse, formerly of Edinburgh University O.T.C.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: V. D. 4.
Cemetery: DADIZEELE NEW BRITISH CEMETERY

This chap should appear in the University of Edinburgh RoH? He is commemorated somewhere else too, I think!
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just love it when the photos are posted - great stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WEDDERBURN-MAXWELL, JAMES
2nd Lieut., 6th (Service) Battn. The King's Own Scottish Borderers, yst. s. of the late Major James Andrew Colville Wedderburn-Maxwell, of Middlebie, and Glenlair, late Bengal Staff Corps, by his wife Helen M.G. (Glenlair, Dalbeattie), dau. of the late Rev. Henry Godfrey Faussett Osborne, of Hartlip Place, co. Kent; b. Glenlair, co. Kirkcudbright, 22 march, 1899; educ. Charterhouse; passed for Sandhurst 1916, but was disqualified as medically unfit; joined the Edinburgh University O.T.C., and subsequently the 9th O.C. Battn., and was gazetted 2nd Lieut. 3rd King's Own Scottish Borderers 13 March, 1918; joined 6th Battn.; served with the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders from 17 Aug. following, and was killed in action at Ledeghem 1 Oct. of the same year. Buried there.
The Brigadier wrote: "He would have been a great asset to the brigade, and even in the short time he was with us, he showed himself a fine youngster. His manner of going out will be a perpetual honour to his family".
And his Commanding Officer: "In this, his first tour in the line, he was very gallant and brave. In the attack on Ledeghem he gallantly led his platoon to the railway embankment just south of it....He was very popular with all his brother officers and his men. His sunny disposition endeared him to all of us".
Another officer also wrote: "His life, though so short, was noble in its simplicity, and his death grand".
He was an enthusiastic sportsman; a good shot with gun, rifle and revolver, and a keen fisherman. He was also a violinist, and a successful photographer; unm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The name Wedderburn-Maxwell seemed to ring a bell, then I remembered that I had photographed this memorial (not a war memorial) in Corsock Church. Corsock and Parton are only about 10 miles apart so it seems likely that these two were related. This does not really add to the memorial but it might be an interesting lead if anyone is doing a history.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
The name Wedderburn-Maxwell seemed to ring a bell, then I remembered that I had photographed this memorial (not a war memorial) in Corsock Church. Corsock and Parton are only about 10 miles apart so it seems likely that these two were related


Is it 2nd Lt James Wedderburn-Maxwell's grandfather? This is his father:

James Andrew Colville Wedderburn-Maxwell, of Middlebie, and Glenlair, late Bengal Staff Corps.

The shared name Andrew, the Middlebie and Glenlair and the India connections are too much to be a coincidence. Well spotted Spoons!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
Best bet for Gracie would be this man. No relatives detail on CWGC.

Surname GRACIE
Firstname Thomas G
Service Number 32293
Date Death 28/03/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Dumfries
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank Pte
Theatre of death F.& F.


On the parish civic memorial he is named as
PTE. T. GRACIE, 5th K.O.S.B.
but the Regiment is in a different script from the rest of the memorial and was probably added later.
Paul identified him correctly and his details are:
Thomas Jardine Gracie, Private (32293) 1st Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers. Age 30.
Thomas was a cattle-man at Cogarth Farm, Parton (where he lived with his wife and five children) when he enlisted in June 1916. He was mobilised in January 1917 and posted to France in August 1917.
Born 1887 in Dumfries. Son of John and Jane (Twentyman) Gracie. Husband of Mary (Little) Gracie who he married in 1907 in Dumfries.
His daughter Margaret, aged 5, died in Dumfries Infirmary on 4 May 1918 while the family were at College Street, Maxwelltown. Her father is described as a ploughman and Pte. R.S. Fusiliers.
By 1919 Mary and her family were at East Park Cottages, Caerlaverock, Dumfriesshire.
Missing in action on 28 March 1918 and named on the Arras Memorial, France.
He is also named on the Maxwelltown/Troqueer War Memorial in Dumfries.
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