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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Towie Reply with quote

Towie - Gordon District
Listed by UKNIWM as Glenkindie Ref: 8586


The Towie war memorial is a grey granite cross set on a square pedestal on two low steps. The cross has a wheel head and a sheathed sword carved in relief on the face. The commemoration and names of the dead are listed in lead lettering on the faces of the pedestal, and battle honours are listed on the base of the pedestals.
The monument stands outwith the kirk between the hotel and garage on the roadside.
The commemoration on the face of the pedestal reads:
'LEST WE FORGET
FOR KING AND COUNTRY
ERECTED
IN PROUD AND GRATEFUL
REMEMBRANCE OF THE MEN
CONNECTED WITH THE PARISH
OF TOWIE
WHO LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES
IN THE GREAT WAR
1914 - 1919
AND WHOSE NAMES ARE
INSCRIBED HEREON'

The battle honours recorded around the base are:
FRANCE & DARDANELLES / PALESTINE & MESOPOTAMIA
'THEY DIED THAT WE MIGHT LIVE'





WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
BARRON WILLIAM GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
BEGG HENRY ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS CAPTAIN MB.CH.B.
COUTTS GEORGE GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
DAWSON JOHN GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
ELLIS GEORGE GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
ELLIS PETER ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
HENDERSON GEORGE MACHINE GUN CORPS PRIVATE LONDON MACHINE GUN CORPS
INGRAM JOHN W. CANADIANS CORPORAL
INNES JOHN W. ROYAL NAVY SEAMAN
LAW GEORGE ROYAL ENGINEERS SERGEANT
MCCONNACHIE GEORGE AUSTRALIANS CORPORAL
MCCONNACHIE JAMES AUSTRALIANS SERGEANT
OGG PETER GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
RIDDELL DUNCAN MACHINE GUN CORPS PRIVATE
ROSS WILLIAM GORDON HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT
SCOTT ALEXANDER T. GORDON HIGHLANDERS LANCE CORPORAL
SHEARER JAMES GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
SMITH CHARLES P. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
SMITH HUGH G. ROYAL ENGINEERS LANCE CORPORAL
STEWART CHARLES GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
TAWSE EDWIN G. GORDON HIGHLANDERS CORPORAL
TAYLOR JOHN A. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
THOM ADAM MCG. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
THAIN JOHN GORDON HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT
YOUNG RONALD J. ROYAL MARINES MARINE


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is listed in UKNIWN but as Glenkindie. I have raised this with them.

It should be noted that Gordon District Council has been abolished for many years . This should now be Aberdeenshire Council.



The details are.


GLENKINDIE
UKNIWM Ref: 8586

Address
A97
GLENKINDIE
GRAMPIAN
SCOTLAND

Type: CROSS
Other Location Details: BESIDE ALFORD-STRATHDON RD (A97)

OS Map Ref: NJ 441 138



It is interesting to note that the first named, Capt Henry Begg, RAMC, is also properly recorded on the memorials at Auchindoir and Rhynie & Kearn.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information James, much appreciated! As you will see I have now added this information to the entry.
Regards Gordon I prefer to use the old district names as I think it gives a better idea of the area or location of the monument. I suppose I should list the local government body responsible for maintenance but my experience has been that this seems to change over the years. If the forum would prefer me to change this I'll be happy to oblige.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is listed in UKNIWN but as Glenkindie. I have raised this with them


Jim

It has now been corrrected and the listing changed to Towie.

I am aware that Adam was keen to use the latest authorities locally ie. Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray. Check with him.

THe old Grampian Region, of which Gordon District was part, included Banffshire which, I am sorry to say, has disapeared altogether in the reorganisation. The town of Banff is now in Aberdeenshire, crazy !!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kinnethmont wrote:
The town of Banff is now in Aberdeenshire, crazy !!


A crazy decision indeed.

kinnethmont wrote:
I am aware that Adam was keen to use the latest authorities locally ie. Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire and Moray. Check with him.


I prefer the Unitary & Island Authorities. I don't see the local authority boundaries being redrawn for a good few years so we may as well use them just now. All the memorial lists on the forum use the current authorities rather than counties or districts as well.
Unfortunately names didn't stop being added to memorials in 1975 or 1997 so personally I think we should use the current boundaries for posts.

The sections on the forum are linked to the current authorities and you can see a list I made comparing them here

Local Authorities and the forum sections

If you prefer to think in the old pre-1975 counties then I've made up another list here

Counties - Authorities

I know Jim likes the Region / District split because as he says it can place the memorial to a quite small area.

Jim's copy of the RBL War Memorial list is here which is split by pre-97 Districts

RBL list

I don't see a problem in using the old District or even older county boundaries for authorities such as Highland, Scottish Borders and Aberdeenshire where the new authorities cover such a large area and it helps locate the memorial.

Just to confuse matters though when Highland and Scottish Borders changed from Regions to Authorities they rebranded the Districts as Areas but also took the liberty of redrawing internal boundaries. This means a place like Reay which was in the County of Caithness then the District of Caithness is now in the Sutherland Area of Highland Council.

If you are unsure which area a town is in you can use Goole Maps which lists the authority when you submit a search.

Regards

Adam

ps I really like the photographs being posted by Jim over the last few days which were taken in the winter with the memorials covered in snow.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of "my boys" doesn't appear on this memorial.
Francis Berry is listed in SDGW as being born at Towie.
He died on the Somme in 1916.



His name appears on the Minto War memorial:


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derek,

You probably know this but I was leafing through De Ruvignys and there is a picture and bio sketch of Francis Berry.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Barron W Reply with quote

Barron William Pte S/24963 6th Seaforth Highlanders b Alford e Aberdeen 18 Died of Wounds F & F 25-Jul-18 Son of Mr & Mrs Barron, Sunnybank, Alford, Aberdeenshire Epernay French National Cemetery Fr 1693 Row F Grave 7
grave moved to Terlincthun British Cemetery, Wimille Fr 0034 Plot XVI Row AA Grave 6


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Begg Henry Reply with quote

Begg Henry Capt 2nd/1st Royal Army Medical Corps HFA Age 35 Killed in Action F & F 14-Nov-16 Son of George & Isabella Begg, Mains of Druminnor, Rhynie. KIA near Beaumont-Hamel. City Roll of Honour : Kentish Town, London. Officers Book page 253 Louvencourt Military Cemetery Fr 0003 Plot I Row E Grave 5 Auchindoir City Lumsden Rhynie & Towie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Coutts George Reply with quote

Coutts George Pte 2822 7th Gordon Highlanders e Banchory 18 Died of Wounds F & F 26-Jul-16 Grandson of Mrs Coutts, Broadbog, Cushnie, Alford, Aberdeenshire Grandson of John Coutts. Heilly Station Cemetery, Mericourt-L'Abbe Fr 0833 Plot II Row E Grave 10 Peoples Journal 19-8-16 : Page 7
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Dawson John Reply with quote

Dawson John Pte 1151 6th Gordon Highlanders b Towie e Strathdon 19 Died of Wounds F & F 16-Mar-15 Son of George & Ann Dawson, Deskry, Strathdon. Boulonge Eastern Cemetery Fr 0102 Plot III Row D Grave 18 Strathdon & Towie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Ellis G Reply with quote

Ellis George B Pte 265970 6th Gordon Highlanders e Keith 21 Killed in Action F & F 23-Apr-17 Son of Alexander & Jane Ellis, Waterside, Towie, Glenkindie, Aberdeenshire DoW Athies Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0451 Row J Grave 01
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Henderson George Reply with quote

Henderson George Pte 81980 103rd Machine Gun Corps (Inf) b Aberdeen e Paddington r Middex 37 Died of Wounds F & F 29-Apr-17 Son of James & Mary Henderson, New Morlich, Towie, Glenkindie, Aberdeenshire. Formerly 7405 London Regt Aubigny Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 0095 Plot II Row J Grave 2

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Ingram John William Cpl 27357 15th Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regt) b Towie 24/06/1889 Age 25 Died F & F 27-Apr-15 Son of Alick & Christina Ingram, Mains of Luther, Laurencekirk. Husband of Isabel Allan Ingram, 67 King St; Peterhead. Occ : Architect. City Roll of Honour. Menin Gate Memorial, Ypres M. R. 29 Panel 18-24-26-30 Marykirk & Towie
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Innes J W Reply with quote

John Watt Innes Ord Seman J/65242 Royal Navy HMS Vivid born Glenlivet 06/11/1897 Age 19 Died Plymouth 21-Mar-17 Father: John Glen of Line, by Balliningallock, Aberdeen. Cabrach Memorial: Hillhead. MI : Bui5. Ford Park Cemetery (Formerly Plymouth Old Cemetery U. K. Pennycomequick Church S.4.14 Courant 30-3-17 1/1 Cabrach Glenlivet & Towie

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