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jamiemcginlay



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Kilmaurs Reply with quote

Kilmaurs - Kilmarnock & Louden District

The Kilmaurs war memorial is a freestone obelisk standing on a series of four octagonal steps. The bronze memorial tablets are set into the stone pedestal faces which project out from the four sides. A bronze soldier, head bowed and arms reversed, by Glasgow sculptor Kellock Brown is set at the front of the monument (Brown executed the same figure for the Penpont memorial). The memorial stands on a rise in Morton Park.

The commemoration is carved on the stone shield at the base of the obelik. The carving is becoming eroded and reads:
IN PROUD AND GRATEFUL
REMEMBRANCE OF
THOSE FROM THIS
DISTRICT WHO DIED
FOR THEIR COUNTRY
IN THE GREAT WAR
1914 - 1918 - 1939 - 1945
THIS MEMORIAL WAS
ERECTED BY PUBLIC
SUBSCRIPTION










WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Andrew Alexander Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Templeton John Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Stewart John SFH Private
Kerr Thomas SFH Private
McVey Donald SFH Private
Sim Alexander SFH Private
McHoull William CH Private
Nimmo Peter SR Private
Weir David SR Private
Armour James CLI Private
Fulton John QES Private
Tannock Quintin J. King's Own Scottish Borderers Private
Brown James Machine Gun Corps Private
Henry William John Royal Engineers Private
McKillen John RH Private
Lind John Royal Army Service Corps Private
Lind Arthur GH Private
Manson James SBH Trooper
Calderwood Thomas Royal Garrison Artillery Gunner
Lamont Peter Royal Field Artillery Gunner
Young Robert Royal Garrison Artillery Signalman
Smith James Royal Engineers Sapper
Preston Robert Royal Scots Fusiliers Bugler
Paterson Hugh K. Royal Scots Fusiliers Corporal
McNaught James M. QWS Captain
Corbett A.C. Royal Air Force Lieutenant
Boyd John Royal Scots Fusiliers Lieutenant
Hannah Hugh Royal Scots Fusiliers Sergeant
King James Conn Royal Engineers Sergeant
Fisher John Royal Scots Fusiliers Lance Corporal
Bone David Royal Scots Fusiliers Lance Corporal
Carnochan James Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Carnochan John Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Carnochan Joseph Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Colquhoun Joseph Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Crawford Mungo Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Cuthbertson Allan Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Dewar Neil Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Fry James Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Hill John Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Marshall Andrew Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
McClintock William Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Robertson David Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Sands John Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Tannock Hugh Royal Scots Fusiliers Private



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
McIntyre Mary B.E.M. A.T.S. Corporal
Corbett B.P. Lieutenant The Honourable B.P. Corbett
Cumming R.D. Royal Navy Able Seaman
Cumming W. Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Gilmour R.E. Royal Engineers Sergeant
Love C.B. Royal Army Medical Corps Private
McChristie J.W. Royal Artillery Gunner
McLintock R.D. Royal Artillery Gunner
McConkey M.F. Royal Scots Fusiliers Corporal
Osborne James Royal Navy Stoker
Sneddon J.W. Royal Air Force Flight Sergeant
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One man missing from the memorial?

Surname BELL
Firstname Thomas
Service Number 12563
Date Death 14/10/1917
Decoration
Place of birth Kilmaurs Ayrshire
Other 8/10th Bn.
SNWM roll THE GORDON HIGHLANDERS
Rank Sgt
Theatre of death F.& F.
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graeme.ruxton



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some added information from wikipedia (but I checked the facts with a local history book):

"Kilmaurs has a particularly fine war memorial situated in the Morton Park (gifted to the village by George Morton of Lochgreen, Troon in 1921.) The memorial itself was erected at a cost of £900 raised by public subscription and unveiled on 3 April 1921. 45 men gave their lives in the Great War and 10 men and 1 woman in the Second World War"

I agree, I think this is a magnificient memorial, a very effective sculpture and the placement of the memorial sets it off perfectly.

Here are some extra photos







I like the decision to give the woman killed in world war two a little extra prominence by including her at the top of the list.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

graeme.ruxton wrote:
I like the decision to give the woman killed in world war two a little extra prominence by including her at the top of the list.


Graeme

I've seen this placing of a woman's name first on Great War panels, I don't think it was as common for the Second World War where they are more likely to be included alphabetically.

McINTYRE, MARY
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Auxiliary Territorial Service
Age: 48
Date of Death: 20/06/1945
Service No: W/20683
Awards: B E M
Additional information: Daughter of James and Mary McIntyre, of Glasgow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. F. Grave 259.

And the next name on the list. JP, not BP

CORBETT, The Hon. JOHN POLSON
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment/Service: Grenadier Guards
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 18/07/1944
Service No: 300818
Additional information: Son of Lt.-Col. Thomas Godfrey Polson Corbett, 2nd Baron Rowallan, M.C., T.D., D.L. (formerly of The Royal Scots Fusiliers), and Lady Rowallan, of Rowallan, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 12, Column 2.
Memorial: BAYEUX MEMORIAL
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From earlier this year:

http://www.s1kilmaurs.com/news/town-set-to-remember-as-name-added-to-kilmaurs-war-memorial.html

Town set to remember as name added to Kilmaurs war memorial
8 February

Kilmaurs will remember as Cpl Alexander Herrall will be added to the town's war memorial

Another name will be added to Kilmaurs' war memorial on Saturday 16th February [2011], when the ceremony to add Corporal Alexander Herrall to the roll will be held at 1pm.

The ceremony will mark the 60th anniversary of Corporal Herrall's death, when as a member of the Gloucester Regiment, he lost his life during the Korean War.

Rev Urquhart will conduct the service, attended by members of the local Royal British Legion, and members of Cpl Herrall's family, Kilmaurs Community Council, local schools, and hopefully a large turnout from the local community will also be welcomed at the ceremony.


The Gloucestershire Regiment captured Hill 327 on the date Corporal Herrall died.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the minutes of Kilmaurs Community Council:

http://kilmaurs.btck.co.uk/Minutes

Following the placing of the plaque for Cpl Herrall, the death of Pvt Ian Stewart of Kilmaurs while in Korea was discussed, but his was as a result of a swimming accident and not due to active service.

It seems a bit harsh since a fairly substantial number of names recorded on Scotland's war memorials record men and women who died of natural causes or accidents.

It seems the Kilmarnock Community Council are not as strict because they have a Private I Stewart listed on their Korean War panel.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: James MacGeogh McNaught Reply with quote

WW1
Cap. James M. McNaught, QWS

He was born in the parish in 1881 and died in the UK, but was buried down south?

CWGC
Name: McNAUGHT, J MacG
Initials: J M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)
Unit Text: 2nd/4th Bn.
Date of Death: 13/11/1919
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Cemetery: KNEBWORTH (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD

SNWM
Surname: McNAUGHT
Firstname: James MacGeogh
Date Death: 13/11/1919
Other: 4th Bn. (T.F.).
SNWM roll: SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank: Capt

Cheers,
Derek.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rest of the WW2 names

CUMMING, WILLIAM
Initials: W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 01/12/1944
Service No: 3131417
Additional information: Son of James Cumming and of Margaret Kennedy Cumming (nee Dunlop), of Kilmaurs, Ayrshire; husband of Annie Gilmour Cumming, of Kilmaurs.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. C. 5.
Cemetery: FAENZA WAR CEMETERY

CUMMING, ROBERT DUNLOP
Initials: R D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Able Seaman
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Scorpion
Age: 23
Date of Death: 13/02/1942
Service No: D/JX 191163
Additional information: Son of James and Margaret Cumming, of Kilmaurs, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 64, Column 3.
Memorial: PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL

GILMOUR, ROBERT EBENEZER
Initials: R E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 16 Bomb Disposal Coy.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 28/04/1942
Service No: 1914768
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. E. Coll. grave. 16b.-16r.
Cemetery: PEMBROKE DOCK MILITARY CEMETERY

LOVE, CAMPBELL BOYLE
Initials: C B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Army Medical Corps
Age: 25
Date of Death: 11/09/1944
Service No: 7382586
Additional information: Son of Allan and Elizabeth Love; husband of Pearl Love, of Stewarton, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 2. D. 20.
Cemetery: IMPHAL WAR CEMETERY

McCHRISTIE, JOSEPH WRIGHT
Initials: J W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 156 (The Lanarkshire Yeomanry) Field Regt.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 26/11/1943
Service No: 977419
Additional information: Son of Robert and Agnes McChristie; husband of Agnes McChristie, of Kilmaurs, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. D. 14.
Cemetery: CASSINO WAR CEMETERY

McCLINTOCK, ROBERT DICKIE
Initials: R D
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery
Unit Text: 78 Field Regt.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 09/10/1943
Service No: 1103872
Additional information: Son of Alfred McClintock and of Margaret McClintock (nee Wales), of Kilmaurs, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: X. C. 16.
Cemetery: BARI WAR CEMETERY

McCONKEY, MATTHEW FINDLEY
Initials: M F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Fusilier
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 11th Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 11/09/1944
Service No: 3133951
Additional information: Son of John and Elizabeth J. T. McConkey; husband of Helen McConkey, of Kilmaurs, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Divn. 67. Row Q. Grave 19.
Cemetery: STE. MARIE CEMETERY, LE HAVRE

Possibly: OSBORNE, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Stoker 1st Class
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. Samphire
Age: 22
Date of Death: 30/01/1943
Service No: C/KX 122207
Additional information: Foster-son of Alfred E. and Mary S. C. Osborne.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 72, 2.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

SNEDDON, JAMES WILSON
Initials: J W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (Flt. Engr.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 75 Sqdn.
Date of Death: 03/08/1943
Service No: 1342219
Additional information: Son of the late James Gorman Sneddon and Elizabeth Wilson Sneddon. Of Kilmaurs, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Coll. grave 4A. D. 10-12.
Cemetery: HAMBURG CEMETERY
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam Brown wrote:

GILMOUR, ROBERT EBENEZER
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 16 Bomb Disposal Coy.
Date of Death: 28/04/1942
Cemetery: PEMBROKE DOCK MILITARY CEMETERY


From

http://www.pembrokeshire-war-memorial.co.uk/page54.htm

Pembroke Dock is home to the only Military Cemetery in Wales....The World War Two burials include nineeen servicemen killed on 28 April 1942, during an explosion at a mine disposal course at the Defensible Barracks.

And

http://www.robertjakes.co.uk/enl_RP_PD_trail.htm

.. soldiers who died in an accidental explosion while practising the techniques of disarming mines. The incident occurred on 28th April 1942. The men killed were nine Royal Engineers, four men from The King’s Own Scottish Borderers and four who were serving with The Pioneer Corps.
An incredible footnote – one officer escaped certain death that day when he chose to leave the tragic scene to answer the telephone!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:50 am    Post subject: Pte. John Sands Reply with quote

WW1
Pte. John Sands, R.S.F.

(Glasgow Herald 9th July 1915)
"Private John Sands, 4th Royal Scots Fusiliers, was killed in action at the Dardanelles on June 19. Private Sands resided in Kilmaurs, and was employed at Plann Brickwork. He had formally served in the Artillery Volunteers, and joined the 4th R.S.F. after mobilisation. He was 32 years of age, and leaves a widow and family of three young children."

CWGC
SANDS, J
Rank: Private
Service No: 8228
Date of Death: 19/06/1915
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 4th Bn.
Grave Reference: Sp. Mem. 90.
Cemetery: PINK FARM CEMETERY, HELLES

SNWM
Surname: SANDS
Forename: John
Rank: Pte
Service number: 8228
Date of death: 19 June 1915
Theatre of death: Dardanelles
Cause of death: Killed in action
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail: 1/4th Bn.
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Arthur Lind S/13223 Pte 6th Gordon Highlanders b Kilmaurs e Kilmarnock KiA F & F 23-4-17 Son of Charles & Agnes Gemmell Lind. 1901 Census 5 Boyd St; Kilmarnock. Father's Occ: Factory Engine Keeper. ATHIES Comm. Cem. Ext. Row J Grave 13
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Thomas Bell Sgt S/12563 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders b Kilmaurs,Ayrshire e Hamilton Age 33 Died of Wounds F&F 14/10/1917 Son of George and Maud Bell. Husband of Catherine Graham Bell, of 8, Low Shawsburn, Larkhall, Lanarkshire. Husband of Catherine Graham. Soldiers Will 4 pages. Duisans British Cemetery, Etrun Fr 0113 Plot V Row C Grave 15 Hamilton Advertiser 27-10-17 Page 1 Kilmaurs
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