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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Crookedholm Reply with quote

Crookedholm & Hurlford, Kilmarnock District

The Crookedholm war memorial is a freestone monument with an octagonal pedestal set on two low octagonal steps and supporting a square pillar with cornice, crowned with an orb. The monument is surrounded on three sides with a low freestone wall and the area within is paved. The memorial stands on the Main Road.










WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
Anderson Alexander
Barclay Robert
Beattie Robert
Bell Peter
Black James
Cameron Andrew
Campbell John
Campbell Thomas
Clark William
Crawford George
Crawford James
Crawford James
Dunlop James
Faulds Hugh
Ferguson David
Ferguson James
Goldie Hugh
Goudie Robert
Govans Henry
Govans James
Govans John
Gray Alexander
Hamilton John Eric Findlay
Hastings Adam H.
Hewitt George Stanley
Holland Thomas
Hood James
Hopes Robert
Irvine Isaac
Johnstone William
Jones James
Joyce John
Keaney David
Kearney Michael
Knox John
Lang Graeme
Locke Alexander
McCabe John
McChesney Alexander
McClurc James
McDill John
McFadzean Alexander
McFadzean Robert
McGrindle John
McIlwraith Thomas
McKinnon Angus
Miller John
Miller William
Monaghan Robert
Monaghan William
Paterson Ivie
Paterson James
Peacock Daniel
Peacock William
Proudfoot James
Proudfoot William
Richmond David
Richmond James
Richmond John
Robertson Thomas
Rorrison Alexander
Sharp John
Shearer Robert
Shields John
Sillars W.M.
Smith John
Smith William
Spiers Robert
Strachan William
Swift Joseph
Thomson Matthew Sillars
Turnbull Alexander
Wakefield James
White John
White John
Whitelaw George
Wilson Henry
Wood Michael
Wright Hugh
Wyllie William



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
Barrie David K. Royal Engineers Sapper
Boyd Robert C. York & Lancs. Regiment Second Lieutenant
Campbell Hugh Scots Guards Guardsman
Clark Charles M. Merchant Navy Seaman
Clark James M. Merchant Navy Seaman
Clark John Merchant Navy Engineer
Fairbairn Peter T.H. Cameron Highlanders Private
Henderson William J. Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Joyce David A.A.C. Paratroop Regiment? Paratrooper
Leckie Joseph D. Royal Engineers Driver
McChristie Joseph Royal Artillery Gunner
McGinty Hugh Royal Navy Stoker 1st Class
McIvor George Royal Scots Fusiliers Sergeant
McKinnon Alexander Commandos Sergeant
McKnight Samuel Scots Scots Greys Corporal
McMillan Thomas Royal Scots Fusiliers Fusilier
Millican John Royal Navy Seaman
Minto Martha W.L.A. Women's Land Army? Miss
Mitchell Philip Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
O'Pray Hugh Royal Army Ordnance Corps Private
Rae Gilbert Royal Army Medical Corps S/Sergeant
Scott James Royal Engineers Sapper
Smith James Royal Artillery Gunner
Smith Thomas Royal Scots Fusiliers Private
Watt George Merchant Navy Radio Officer
White Robert Gordon Highlanders Lance Corporal
Williamson James Royal Scots Fusiliers Corporal
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen this described as Crookedholm (as in heading), Crookedholm and Hurlford but most commonly Hurlford and Crookedholm. There doesn't seem to be anything on the memorial to clarify. Not listed on UKNIWM and we don't have a location. Can anyone help to clear things up?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Lt. John Eric Hamilton-Findlay Reply with quote

WW1
Hamilton-Findlay, John Eric

(Glasgow Herald 9th July 1915)
"A Kilmarnock soldier, writing to his wife from the front, relates the circumstances under which Lieutenant Findlay-Hamilton of Westport and Carnell, 3rd Royal Scots Fusiliers, met his death on June 16. He was killed in an attack on the German position. Shortly before the order was given to mount the parapet, says the writer of the letter, at which time the German fire was terrific, he remarked to the man beside him that it was like asking a man to commit suicide to face it. However, the order was given to mount, which he did with his men, and no sooner had he stepped on the top than he was shot through the breast. "Apparently he was unaware of it" the letter goes on, "for he ran on for about twenty yards, then staggered and fell, and so died a brave and true soldier." Lieutenant Findlay-Hamilton, it is added, was buried in one of the numerous soldiers' graveyeards that are round about the firing line."

I wonder how his grave location came to be lost? Perhaps a temporary grave lost in later fighting like many others?

CWGC
FINDLAY-HAMILTON, JOHN ERIC
Rank: Lieutenant
Date of Death: 16/06/1915
Age: 19
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 3rd Bn. attd. 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference: Panel 12 and 13.
Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of George Douglas Findlay Hamilton, of Carnell, Hurlford, Ayrshire.

SNWM
Surname: FINDLAY-HAMILTON
Forename: John Eric
Rank: Lieut
Date of death: 16 June 1915
Cause of death: Killed in action
SNWM roll: THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Other detail: 3rd Bn. (att. 2nd Bn.).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:25 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Gdsm. Adam H. HASTINGS, Scots Guards. Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Saturday, 21st October, 1916.
"Deaths on Service.
HASTINGS.-
Killed in action on the 15th ult., Private Adam Hyslop Hastings, Scots Guards, aged 31, beloved husband of Annie Aird, Mill Lane, Crookedholm, Hurlford."

The Glasgow Herald, Saturday, 15th September, 1917.
"In Memoriam.
HASTINGS.
- In affectionate remembrance of Private Adam H. Hastings, Scots Guards, beloved husband of Annie Aird, who fell in action on 15th September, 1916.- Inserted by his sorrowing Widow, Crookedholm, Hurlford."


SNWM - WW1
Surname HASTINGS
Forename Adam Hyslop
Rank Gdsm
Service number 10322
Decoration
Place of birth Thornhill Dumfries
Date of death 15 September 1916
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll SCOTS GUARDS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to SCOTS GUARDS

SDGW - Born Thornhill, Dumfries; lived Tarbolton, Ayrs.; enlisted Glasgow.

CWGC - HASTINGS, Adam Hyslop
Rank: Private.
Service No: 10322.
Date of Death:15/09/1916.
Regiment/Service: Scots Guards 1st Bn.
Panel Reference: Pier and Face 7 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:33 pm    Post subject: WW1 - Pte. Alexander Anderson, Camerons. Reply with quote

The Glasgow Herald, Thursday, 28th. June, 1917.
"Deaths on Service.
ANDERSON.-
Previously reported missing on 13th August, 1916, now officially presumed killed on that date, Private Alexander R. Anderson, Cameron Highlanders, fourth son of the late John Anderson, Blair, Hurlford."

Only reference to deceased having a middle initial is in the above newspaper.

SNWM - WW1
Surname ANDERSON
Forename Alexander
Rank Pte
Service number S/20745
Decoration
Place of birth Hurlford Ayrshire
Date of death 13 August 1916
Theatre of death F&F
Cause of death Killed in action
SNWM roll THE QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Unit name Unknown Unit attached to THE QUEEN'S OWN CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
Other detail 6th Bn.

SDGW - Born/lived Hurlford; enlisted Inverness.
Medal index ticket records Theatre of War first served in:- (1) France, 16th. December, 1915.

Army register of soldier's backpay and War Gratuity records payments to Margaret (mother).
Alexander Anderson, 6/Cameron Hdrs., Pte. 20745.

1901 Census Ayrshire, Riccarton, Hurlford, Blair Farm, recorded (transcription):- Alexander Anderson (4), son, born Riccarton; John Anderson (43), Farmer, born Ayrs., Galston; Maggie Anderson (39), Wife, born Lanarks., Strathaven; siblings.


CWGC - ANDERSON, Alexander
Rank: Private.
Service No: S/20745.
Date of Death: 13/08/1916.
Regiment/Service: Cameron Highlanders 6th Bn.
Panel Reference: Pier and Face 15 B.
Memorial:THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:
I have seen this described as Crookedholm (as in heading), Crookedholm and Hurlford but most commonly Hurlford and Crookedholm. There doesn't seem to be anything on the memorial to clarify. Not listed on UKNIWM and we don't have a location. Can anyone help to clear things up?

\Paul

The memorial stands at the top end of Main rd,Crookedholm.The 2 towns are separated by the river Irvine,so although it does stand in Crookedholm, it does contain the names of the dead from both villages.
It has recently been renovated in line with the rest of the memorials in East Ayrshire due to the anniversary of the war starting.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:43 pm    Post subject: Could this details fit? Reply with quote

David Ferguson Pte S/5596 7th Black Watch b Kilmarnock e Aberdeen Killed in Action F & F 24/10/1918 Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Maing Communal Cemetery Extension Fr 1256 Row C Grave 22
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject: Henry Wilson GH Reply with quote

Henry Wilson Private S/10457 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Hurlford, Ayrshire e Kilmarnock Age 21 Killed in Action Somme, France 18/07/1916 Son of Mary Wilson, of 33, Portland Row, Hurlford, Ayrshire, and the late John Wilson. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Joseph S. Swift GH Reply with quote

Joseph S. Swift Private S/9073 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Hurlford, Ayr. e Ayr Age 38 Killed in Action West-Vlaanderen, Belgium 25/09/1915 Soldiers Will 4 Pages. Menin Gate Memorial, Ypres M. R. 29 Panel 38 Kilmarnock
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: James McCrindle GH Reply with quote

James McCrindle Private S/43550 2nd Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Hurlford, Ayr. e Glasgow Age 24 Killed in Action Somme, France 04/01/1917 Husband of Minnie Mayberry Maxwell (formerly McCrindle, of Oak Terrace, Bellshill, Lanarkshire. Ancre British Cemetery, Beaumont-Hamel Green Dump Cem. Mem. 8.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proudfoot James
Proudfoot William

In 1901 William and Elizabeth Proudfoot were at Hurlford with their children Arthur, James, William, Elizabeth (all born at Maxwelltown), Robert, George and Maggie (all born at Dalbeattie between 1894 and 1900).

James and William were former pupils of the Dalbeattie Higher Grade Public School and are named on the School Memorial but only William is named on Dalbeattie War Memorial.
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=5349

and only William is named on the Kilmarnock War Memorial.


PROUDFOOT, JAMES
Rank: Private
Service No: 16616
Date of Death: 23/04/1917
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers "D" Coy. 6th/7th Bn.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of the late Mrs. Elizabeth Proudfoot.

An update
James was a miner when he enlisted. He joined the 6th RSF in France in August 1915.
Born 1887 in Maxwelltown, Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of William and Elizabeth (McKinnell) Proudfoot of Galston Road, Hurlford, Ayrshire.
James was a Private in the 6th/7th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers when he married Elizabeth (Little) Murray (a widow) of Galston Road, Hurlford in Kilmarnock on 20 February 1917. (later Mrs Robert Hynd of Galveston, Texas)


and his brother

William Proudfoot – age 26 - Private (20491) 2nd Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers.
William was a former pupil of the Dalbeattie Higher Grade Public School. He was a miner in Hurlford, Ayrshire when he enlisted in Kilmarnock in November 1915. He joined his battalion in France on 7 March 1916.

An update.
William was an iron moulder in a foundry when he enlisted as Private (11209) in the RSF in Kilmarnock in August 1914, however he was discharged October 1914 from the 6th Battalion, RSF at Aldershot as “unlikely to make an efficient soldier” due to defective vision. He had married and was working as a miner when he re-enlisted in November 1915. His daughter Mary was born while he was in training at Fort Matilda in Greenock.

Born 1890 at Maxwelltown/Troqueer, Kirkcudbrightshire. Son of William and Elizabeth (McKinnell) Proudfoot of Galston Road, Hurlford, Kilmarnock.
Husband of Christina (Ferries) Proudfoot of 70 Robertson Place, Kilmarnock (later Mrs John McKnight) who he married in Kilmarnock in June 1915.
Missing in Action on 1 July 1916 and named on the Thiepval Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, France.
The D&G Standard 27/9/1916 p.3a reported the death of William, grandson of William Proudfoot of Mill Brae, Maxwelltown, and that his brothers Robert (a PoW) and James were also in the RSF, and a fourth brother George had been in the Black Watch.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Henry Wilson GH Reply with quote

anne park wrote:
Henry Wilson Private S/10457 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Hurlford, Ayrshire e Kilmarnock Age 21 Killed in Action Somme, France 18/07/1916 Son of Mary Wilson, of 33, Portland Row, Hurlford, Ayrshire, and the late John Wilson. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C

While recently researching my family tree I came into possession of a black and white photograph of a Henry Wilson in uniform with his parents. My father, who has since passed away, was able to tell me that Henry Wilson lived with his family in Portland Row Hurlford where my grand parents and great grand parents also lived and that Henry had been killed during the First World War. I researched this and confirmed that Henry Wilson in the photograph is in fact the same Henry Wilson named on the war memorial.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144645724@N05/shares/kD6vrt
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:05 am    Post subject: Henry Wilson GH update Reply with quote

Henry Wilson Private S/10457 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders b Hurlford, Ayrshire e Kilmarnock Age 21 Killed in Action Somme, France 18/07/1916 Son of Mary Wilson, of 33, Portland Row, Hurlford, Ayrshire, and the late John Wilson. Soldiers Effects: Mo: Mary J. Thiepval Memorial M. R. 21 Pier 15B & 15C AJ 06-09-16 P3: Missing: Hartford? Crookedholm & Hurlford
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: RORRISON, ALEXANDER
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Service Number: 51724
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots, 11th Bn
Date of Death: 28/9/1918
Age: 25
Additional Information: Son of Hugh and Margaret Rorrison, of Galston Rd., Hurlford, Ayrshire. Born at New Cumnock, Ayrshire.
Grave Reference: III G 19
Cemetery: Perth Cemetery (China Wall)

Also named on New Cumnock War Memorial.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:22 pm    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

WMR 80703.

The exact location is NGR NS 45438 36984
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