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IanA



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Capt Tom Welsh - Tweedsmuir (1) Reply with quote

Inside this beautiful but rather remote kirk are two brass plaques both named to Captain Tom Welsh but, obviously different Tom Welshes! CWGC is not very informative and at first sight they don't appear to be related. Anyone with SDGW got anything further?

This Tom Welsh is buried at Redoubt Cemetery, Helles.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SDGW doesn't provide any further details but perhaps Stewarty could as the 1/5th KOSB is his speciality.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the CWGC details from the website

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=601297

Name: WELSH
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Captain
Regiment/Service: King's Own Scottish Borderers
Unit Text: 5th Bn.
Date of Death: 12/07/1915
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: XI. D. 4.
Cemetery: REDOUBT CEMETERY, HELLES


As Derek posted just a minute ago the SNWM doesn't give any more information

http://www.snwm.org/website/frames.html

Surname WELSH
Firstname Tom
Service Number
Date Death 12/07/1915
Decoration
Place of birth
Other 5th Bn. (T.).
SNWM roll THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS
Rank Capt
Theatre of death Unknown

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Tom Welsh, 1/5th KOSB

Only son of Thomas Welsh of Earlshaugh. Educated at Merchiston Castle, Edinburgh. Farmer of Earlshaugh, Carterhope and Ericstane. Resided at Ericstane, Moffat with his wife and young family.

Justice of the Peace for the county of Dumfries, a member of the County Council and of Moffat Town Council.

Joined the Volunteer Force in 1900 and gazetted Captain in 1906. Latterly in command of the Sanquhar and Kirkconnel Company (D Coy.) of the 5th KOSB.

Killed in action 12th July 1915, age 36.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redoubt Cemetery, Helles, XI. D. 4:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Stewartry.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:06 am    Post subject: WMR (ex UKNIWM) number Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also commemorated in the council offices, Dumfries
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=9218
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Merchiston Castle School Memorial at
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3789&start=15

The two men named TOM WELSH on the memorial were cousins.

Tom Welsh age 36 Captain, 1/5th (Dumfries and Galloway) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers.
Tom was educated at Merchiston Castle School in Edinburgh. He farmed the family land at Earlshaugh and tenanted sheep farms at Carterhope and at Ericstane near Moffat where he lived with his own family. He had been a Town Councillor in Moffat and had represented the town on the County Council. He had been commissioned in the 3rd (Dumfries) Volunteer Battalion in June1900, was transferred as Captain to the Territorial 5th KOSB in June 1908 and latterly commanded the Sanquhar and Kirkconnel Company. He landed with his battalion at Gallipoli in June 1915 but was killed a month later during the battle of Achi Baba Nullah.
Born 1879 in Moffat as Tom Welsh. Son of the late Thomas of Earlshaugh and of the late Jane Jardine (Halliday) Welsh of Ericstane.
Husband of Alexandra Mary Bell (Smith) Welsh who he married in 1907 in Moffat.
Killed in Action on 12 July 1915 and buried in Redoubt Cemetery, Helles, Gallipoli, Turkey.
Also named the Moffat War Memorial and on a memorial tablet in the County Buildings in Dumfries.


Tom Welsh, Military Cross age 33 Captain, 1st Field Ambulance, South African Medical Corps attached to the 2nd Regiment, South African Infantry.
Tom was educated at Merchiston Castle School before studying Medicine at Edinburgh University from where he graduated M.B. & Ch.B. in 1910. He became Assistant Medical Officer at the De Wit Mine in Johannesburg and joined the South African Forces at the outbreak of war, serving during the Rebellion and the German South West Africa campaign. He was commissioned as a Captain in the SAMC in November 1915 and moved with the 1st Field Ambulance to England and then to Egypt before arriving in France in April 1916. He was awarded the Military Cross as "Capt. Tom Welsh, S. African Med. C., attd. S. African Infy. For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty. He displayed great courage and determination in organising and leading stretcher parties under very heavy fire. and was twice Mentioned in Despatches. Tom was killed near Arras.
Born 1884 in Edinburgh as Thomas Welsh. Son of the late James Welsh and of Jessie Jardine (Halliday) Welsh of 8 Chamberlain Road in Edinburgh, who had married in 1878 in Moffat, Dumfriesshire.
Killed in Action on 12 April 1917 and buried in Athies Communal Cemetery Extension, France.
Athies was captured by the 9th (Scottish) Division, which included the South African Brigade, on 9 April 1917.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also on Peebles War Memorial.
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