The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project

[jamiemcginlay]

Carnoustie - Angus District
UKNIWM Ref no. 2035

The Carnoustie war memorial takes the form of the freestone full scale sculpture of a soldier mourning over a grave which surmounts a high pedestal. The pedestal is made of dressed sandstone and is flanked by curving walls bearing the granite tablets listing gthe names of the dead, and terminating in pylons. The memorial stands on a raised area approached by two curving stairs on either side.
The sculptor was T. Beattie of Edinburgh.
The monument stands in the memorial gardens in the High Street.








WWI ROLL OF HONOUR:
ADAM JOHN BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
AFFLECK JAMES SOUTH AFRICANS PRIVATE S.A. INF.
ALEXANDER ALEXANDER GORDON HIGHLANDERS LANCE CORPORAL
ALEXANDER JAMES ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
ANDERSON DAVID HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY PRIVATE
ANDERSON D.W. LONDON REGIMENT CAPTAIN MILITARY CROSS
ANDERSON PETER HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY LANCE CORPORAL
APPLEBY GEORGE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS CORPORAL
BAILLIE G.B.A. ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY GUNNER
BALFOUR DAVID BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
BARTON J.R. SCOTTISH HORSE SERGEANT
BAXTER D.H. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
BEATTIE DAVID CAMERON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
BELL RICHARD SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
BENNET LEWIS ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY GUNNER
BERRY J. LESLIE BLACK WATCH LIEUTENANT
BLACK DAVID GORDON HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT
BLACK DAVID ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY GUNNER MILITARY MEDAL
BLACK GEORGE CANADIANS PRIVATE
BLACK GEORGE BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
BRADFORD JOHN BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
BROWN R.W. CANADIANS CORPORAL
BROWN WILLIAM BLACK WATCH COMPANY SERGEANT MAJOR
BUIK D.D. CAMERON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
BUTCHART JOHN BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
BUTCHART RONALD CANADIANS PRIVATE
CAIRNIE JAMES CANADIANS PRIVATE
CAMERON JOHN ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
CARNEGIE JAMES GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
CARTER G.R. KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS COMPANY SERGEANT MAJOR
CHAPMAN ROBERT BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
CLARK ROBERT AUSTRALIANS SERGEANT A.I.F.
COCHRANE W.S. SCOTTISH RIFLES RIFLEMAN
DICKSON G.M. BLACK WATCH LIEUTENANT
DON R.G. BLACK WATCH LIEUTENANT
DORWARD FRED ROYAL AIR FORCE A.M.
DUNCAN JOSEPH GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
DUTHIE ALEXANDER CANADIANS PRIVATE
DUTHIE WILLIAM CANADIANS PRIVATE
ELDER JOHN BLACK WATCH SERGEANT
EWAN H.S. ENNISKILLIN FUSILIERS PRIVATE ENNIS. FUS.
FALCONER FRED ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS LANCE CORPORAL
FALCONER J.G. ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
FALCONER THOMAS ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
FALCONER W. ROYAL SCOTS SERGEANT
FOWLER N.J. ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
FOWLER J.P. ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
FYFFE D.A.S. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
GARDEN A.M. GORDON HIGHLANDERS LANCE CORPORAL
GIBSON J.N. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
GOOCH ALFRED SCOTTISH RIFLES SERGEANT
GRAY JOHN BLACK WATCH SERGEANT
GREEN ALBERT BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
HALL GEORGE LONDON SCOTTISH CAPTAIN
HARDIE ROBERT NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS PRIVATE
HEBENTON A.M. ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS PRIVATE
HENDERSON JAMES BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
HENDRY A. ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY LIEUTENANT
HENDRY ALEXANDER MACHINE GUN CORPS PRIVATE
HERD WILLIAM SCOTS GUARDS PRIVATE
HOGG D.S. ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY SERGEANT
HUTTON FRED CANADIANS SERGEANT
KIDD GEORGE ROYAL ENGINEERS
KITTO D.A. ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS SERGEANT
LAMB S.A. BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
LAMB WILLIAM C. ROYAL ENGINEERS SERGEANT
LORIMER JOHN ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
LOWSON THOMAS ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
LYALL FRANK ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS PRIVATE
MANBY J.S. SCOTS GUARDS PRIVATE
MARQUIS E.R.M. GORDON HIGHLANDERS SERGEANT
MARR GORDON CANADIANS PRIVATE
MARR JAMES ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
MARSHALL ROBERT ROYAL NAVY ROYAL NAVAL DIVISION
MASTERTON F. ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN ROYAL NAVAL DIVISION
MASTERTON G. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
MILL DAVID ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY GUNNER
MORRISON J.A. ROYAL GARRISON ARTILLERY BOMBADIER
MORRISON J.W. SCOTS GUARDS LANCE CORPORAL
MORTIMER DAVID GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
MORTIMER W. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
MUCKART RICHARD BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
MUDIE G.A.M. ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY GUNNER
MURRAY D.G. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
MYLES R.L. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
MCARTHUR W.H. ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS PRIVATE
MCFARLANE A.K. LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS LIEUTENANT
MCGREGOR A.B. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
MCHUTCHISON T. AUSTRALIANS LANCE CORPORAL A.I.F.
MCLACHLAN J. ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
MCLAGGAN W.T. BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
MCNAB J.B. ROYAL ENGINEERS LIEUTENANT
NAIRN F.F. GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
NEILSON THOMAS ROYAL ARMY SERVICE CORPS CORPORAL
NESS ALEXANDER BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
NICOLL PERCY ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY GUNNER
NORRIE ALEXANDER BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
OGG W.M. CAMERON HIGHLANDERS CQMS
OGILVIE D.A. ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
PATERSON WILLIAM BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
PATTON WILLIAM GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
PEEBLES J.A. SCOTTISH RIFLES LIEUTENANT
PHILIP GEORGE GORDON HIGHLANDERS CORPORAL
PHILIP J.D. CANADIANS PRIVATE
RAMSAY DAVID H.C.B. PRIVATE
RAMSAY D.B. ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN ROYAL NAVAL RESERVE
RAMSAY T.R. ROYAL NAVY ABLE SEAMAN ROYAL NAVAL DIVISION
RITCHIE DAVID E. YORKS LANCE CORPORAL
ROBERTS GEORGE BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
ROBERTSON ALEXANDER BLACK WATCH LANCE CORPORAL
ROBERTSON DAVID LIVERPOOL SCOTTISH PRIVATE
ROBERTSON FRANK BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
ROBERTSON F.F. NOTT & DBY PRIVATE
ROBERTSON GEORGE AUSTRALIANS A.I.F.
ROBERTSON R.W. ROYAL ENGINEERS SAPPER
ROBERTSON THOMAS KING'S ROYAL RIFLE CORPS RIFLEMAN
ROBERTSON WILLIAM ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
SADLER GEORGE SCOTTISH RIFLES SERGEANT
SCHOFIELD WILLIAM R. ROYAL NAVY LIEUTENANT
SCROGGIE V. GLOS. LIEUTENANT MILITARY CROSS
SHEPHERD JAMES GORDON HIGHLANDERS PRIVATE
SIMPSON A.E. BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SIMPSON ANDREW KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS SERGEANT
SIMPSON KEN BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SIMPSON WILLIAM MACHINE GUN CORPS CORPORAL
SMITH A.T.W. ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS PRIVATE
SMITH ALEXANDER GORDON HIGHLANDERS LIEUTENANT MILITARY CROSS
SMITH CHARLES BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SMITH DAVID BLACK WATCH SERGEANT
SMITH WILLIAM BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SNOWBALL BERT BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
SPALDING CHARLES CANADIANS PRIVATE
STEWART ROBERT ROYAL NAVY
STOTT GEORGE CANADIANS PRIVATE
THOMSON WILLIAM ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
VANNET ALF ROYAL NAVY PETTY OFFICER ROYAL NAVAL DIVISION
VANNET GEORGE ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
WARDEN CHARLES ROYAL SCOTS PRIVATE
WATSON JAMES BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
WILSON DAVID BLACK WATCH
WOOD ROBERT BLACK WATCH PRIVATE
YEAMAN WILLIAM AUSTRALIANS PRIVATE A.I.F.



WWII ROLL OF HONOUR:
AIKENHEAD W.
BELL P.L.
BLAIR C.
BOYLE W.
BRAND J.S.
BROWN C.
COBB J.T.
COCHRANE D.N.
CUNNINGHAM G.S.
CUTHILL F.J.
DEMARCO D.
ELRICK J.
FINLAYSON A.E.
FORD D.C.F.
GOURLAY A.
HAMILTON G.K.
HOSIE G.S.
INGLIS G.J.
JOLLY S.D.
LINDSAY J.S.
MANBY H.M.
MARR C.M.
MARSHALL K.
MCCROW J.R.C.
MCLEAN H.
MCLEISH R.
MURRAY E.S.
NICOLL D.D.
O'DONOGHUE C.
OLSEN J.C.B.
PHILIP W.S.
RAMSAY D.
REID D.J.
REID R.W.
REID W.
RITCHIE F.R.M.
RITCHIE W.
RUNCIMAN I.B.
SANGSTER R.
SCOTT W.F.
SHEPHERD N.
SIMPSON A.I.
SIMPSON A.R.
TAYLOR A.J.
THORNTON G.
TYNDALL A.L.
WALKER W.
WEBSTER G.A.
WRIGHT J.A.

[DerekR]

Jamie,

Do you have any further information on the sculptor "T. Beattie of Edinburgh"?

Could this be Thomas Beattie, the father of William F.Beattie I've featured here?:
http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=504
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Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear.

[jamiemcginlay]

Hello Derek,
Yes I would assume the mason was Thomas Beattie. Sir Robert Lorimer had a few favoured artists including Thomas Beattie, Joseph Hayes and Louis Reid Deuchars who set themeselves up in a converted church at 4 Belford Road in Edinburgh before the war, working on Lorimer projects. Since Beattie was the sculptor I wouldn't then be surprised if Lorimer was the architect for Carnoustie but I havn't managed to confirm that yet.
Also its interesting how very similar in style the Carnoustie highlander is to the one at the Glenelg memorial by Louis Reid Deuchars which makes me wonder if Deuchars perhaps executed the sketch model for this soldier from which Beattie has scaled up and carved the life size sculpture.

[dhubthaigh]

THIS CASUALTY IS ALSO ON THE COUPAR ANGUS WAR MEMORIAL, PERTHSHIRE:-

Name: COCHRANE
Initials: W S
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 5th/6th Bn.
Date of Death: 26/10/1918
Service No: 39993
Additional information: Husband of M. B. Cochrane, of "Ashgrove," Millar St., Carnoustie, Forfarshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 50.
Cemetery: INCHY COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

[DerekR]

Name: BLACK
Initials: George
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Date of Death: 23/04/1917
Service No: 240315
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. D. 3.
Cemetery: GUEMAPPE BRITISH CEMETERY, WANCOURT
SDGW states: born & enlisted Carnoustie


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Time but th' impression stronger makes, As streams their channels deeper wear.

[DelBoy]

[dhubthaigh]

DelBoy,

Fantastic pics. of a superb memorial. Thanks.

Mark

[Adam Brown]

These are great photographs of this memorial. The statue is very impressive.

Regards

Adam

[Adam Brown]

This man is commemorated on a family headstone in Buittle Churchyard near Dalbeattie in Dumfries and Galloway.

NEILSON, THOMAS
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 420th M. T. Coy.
Secondary Regiment: Royal Garrison Artillery
Secondary Unit Text: attd. 40th Siege Bty.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 03/09/1918
Service No. M2/200856
Additional Information: Son of James and Helen Neilson of Palnackie, Kirkcudbrightshire; husband of Catherine Neilson of 18 West Path Carnoustie, Forfarshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 23.
Cemetery: TIGRIS LANE CEMETERY, WANCOURT

[graeme.ruxton]

With reference to a previous post speculating about the likely architect, the Dictionary of Scottish Architects credits this memorial to James Prain Bruce and George Christie Morton, who at that time (1925) were the active architects in the firm Bruce, Son & Morton. Bruce lived in the town, which might well have helped secure the commission; but one could imagine that their chances of selection where done no harm by the firm’s only previous war memorial, the rather eye-catching park gates in Meigle (built in 1921).

[anne park]

David Black Sjt S/2766 8th Gordon Highlanders born Carnoustie, Forfar. enlisted Aberdeen Died of Wounds Home 06-Aug-15 Barry Parish Churchyard, Angus U. K. Barry Row B Grave 109

[Richard Bain]

In October 2012, Princess Anne unveiled two additional plaques on the Carnoustie War Memorial to commemorate the town's two WW1 VCs




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My Great Uncles
Pte George Gibson 9th Cameronians died 28/12/16 at Arras
Pte James Lawson 6th Cameron Hldrs. died 21/3/18 at Monchy
Kirkcaldy WM

[anne park]

Name: George Stott
Birth Date: 27 Aug 1888
Birth Location: Arbirlot Forfarshire, Scotland
Relative: James Stott
Relationship: Father
Regiment Number: 153301
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Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire.

[anne park]

Name: George Stott
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Stott
Mother's Name: Betsy Stott (nee Kydd)
Gender: Male
Where born: Arbirlot, Forfarshire
Registration number: 321
Registration district: Tannadice
Civil parish: Tannadice
County: Angus
Address: Baldonkie Cottar Ho
Occupation: Scholar
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Researching WWI info from Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire & Morayshire.

[Kenneth Morrison]

An extract from
http://www.guideandgazette.co.uk/news/local-headlines/vc-recipients-relatives-sought-1-2497651


Published on Friday 31 August 2012 06:00

THE SEARCH is on for the descendents of Carnoustie’s two First World War heroes.


Plaques commemorating the actions of Lance Corporal Jarvis and Petty Officer Samson were refurbished and moved to the Carnoustie War Memorial at the beginning of the year.

Lance Corporal Jarvis (33), 57th Field Company, Royal Engineers, was awarded the Victoria Cross for his actions at the Battle of Mons in August, 1914, when he demolished a bridge while under heavy German fire for an hour and half.

A native of Fraserburgh, he and his family moved to Rattray and then to Carnoustie.

Charles completed his education at Carnoustie School and was confirmed at Holyrood Church.

He died in Dundee in 1948 at the age of 67 and is buried at Cupar Cemetery, Fife.

Petty Officer George Mackenzie Samson (26), Royal Naval Reserve, won his Victoria Cross after rescuing and treating dozens of his comrades aboard HMS Clyde during the disastrous amphibious assault at V Beach in Gallipoli on April 25, 1915.

He was a native of Carnoustie and returned to the Merchant Marine following his war service.

He died aboard SS Strombbus in February, 1923, and is buried at the Methodist Cemetery, St George’s, Bermuda.

Do we have the Jarvis grave on SWGP?
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Ken