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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Kilbirnie Park Gate Reply with quote

UKNIWM Ref: 9675

Scene fom the unveiling, 7th October, 1922

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WW1

ABBOTT JAMES R.S.F.
ADAMS FRANCIS R.S.F.
ALLAN MARSHALL R.S.F.
ALLWELL ALFRED A.S.C.
ANDERSON JAMES R.S.F.
ANDREWS ROBERT C.I.F.
BAIRD MATTHEW 2nd DRAGOONS
BAIRD WILLIAM A R.S.F.
BARBOUR JOHN R.S.F.
BARCLAY ROBERT MER MAR
BELL ANDREW R.S.F.
BELL GEORGE R.S.F.
BELL WILLIAM R.S.F.
BELL WILLIAM R.A.M.C.
BINGHAM JOHN R.S.F.
BLACKWOOD DAVID AYRSHIRE YEO
BOYCE ANDREW R.S
BOYD ANDREW R.E.
BOYLE JAMES R.S.F.
BRANNAN JAMES R.E.
BRODIE HUGH C.I.F.
BRYCE ANDREW R.S.F.
COCHRANE HUGH R.F.A.
COLLIGAN ARTHUR K.O.S.B.
COLLINS NEIL S.R.
CONNEL JAMES R.S.F.
CONNEL ROBERT R.S.F.
CRAWFORD HUGH ARCHIBALD A&SH
COULTER WILLIAM A.S.C.
DAVIDSON JAMES R.S.F.
DICKIE ALLAN R.S.F.
DICKIE DAVID R.E.
DOCHERTY THOMAS R.E.
FOTHERINGHAM HUGH G C.I.F.
FOTHERINGHAM JOHN SEAFORTH HI
FYFE COLIN R.S.F.
GARDNER JAMES R.S.F.
GILLESPIE HUGH C.I.F.
GLASS ROBERT R.S.F.
GLEN DAVID ROBERT R.S.F.
GOLLOGLY HUGH A&SH
GRAHAM ARCHIBALD R.S.F.
GRAHAM DAVID CAM H
GRAHAM GEORGE A&SH
GRAHAM JAMES CAM H
GRAHAM ROBERT R.S.F.
GREENAN WILLIAM ROY FUS
HAMILTON WILLIAM P R.S.F.
HANNAH CHARLES R.S.F.
HANNAH PATRICK R.S.F.
HEENAN HUGH R.S.
HENDERSON WILLIAM R.A.F.
HENDERSON WILLIAM S.R.
HILL ALEX Seaforth High
HODGART JAMES R.S.F.
HOOD JAMES R.S
HOOD JOHN R.S.F.
HOOD SAMUEL R.S.
HOUSTON JOHN C Northumberland Fus
HOUSTON WILLIAM H.L.I.
HOWIE JAMES R.F.A.
HOWLETT ARTHUR R.S.F.
HUGHES JOSEPH R.F.A.
HUNTER JAMES R.F.A.
HUNTER WILLIAM H.L.I.
JACKSON GEORGE R.S.F.
JAMIESON JOHN CAM H
KAY HUGH N.Z.I.F.
KERR DUNCAN MCLEAN S.R.
KERR MATTHEW A.W. H.L.I.
KERR ROBERT WHITEFORD R.S.F.
KNOX MATTHEW C.I.F.
KNOX WILLIAM CAM H & R.F.C.
LAW JOHN A.S.C.
LAW ROBERT W A&SH
LEWIS MORGAN R.S.F.
LOCKHART HARRY CAM H
LOGAN JAMES A.S.C.
LOGAN JOHN R.S.F.
LOGAN JOHN S.R.
MACFARLANE JAS M
MACKIE ANDREW R.S.F.
MACKIE JAMES RH
MARSHALL GRAHAM C.I.F.
MENZIES JOHN R.S
MOCHRIE ANDREW S.R.
MOCHRIE JAMES G.H
MOCHRIE MATTHEW S.R.
MOCHRIE ROBERT R.S.F.
MURDOCH JOHN R.S.F.
MURPHY JAMES R.I.F.
MURRAY ROBERT R.S.F.
MCALLISTER JOHN C R.S.F.
MCBRIDE MICHAEL R.S.
MCCABE ARCHIBALD R.S.F.
MCCABE JOHN R.S.F.
MCCABE TERENCE R.S.F.
MCCARTNEY THOMAS A&SH
MCCONNEL JOHN R.S.F.
MCCOSH JOHN CAM H
MCCRACKEN GEORGE R.S.F.
MCCREATH WILLIAM BURNS S.R.
MCDOUGALL DUNCAN R.S.F.
MCDOUGALL JOHN H.L.I.
MCEWAN WILLIAM R.S.F.
MCGRATH DANIEL R.S.F.
MCGUINESS GEORGE R.S.F.
MCINALLY ARTHUR R.S.F.
MCIVOR ROBERT R.S.F.
MCKAY HUGH R.S.F.
MCKEEMAN GEORGE R.S.F.
MCKEEMAN ROBERT
MCKELVIE THOMAS R.S.
MCKENZIE DONALD CAM H
MCMILLAN FRANCIS R.S.F.
MCMILLAN CHARLES A.I.F.
MCMILLAN DANIEL A.I.F.
MCMURDO WILLIAM R.S.F.
MCQUEEN WILLIAM GARDNER R.F.A.
NELSON ROBERT R.S.F.
PARK GEORGE R.E.
PARTRIDGE THOMAS R.F.A.
PORTER ROBERT H.L.I.
PURDIE HENRY R.W.F.
QUIGLEY THOMAS Seaforth High
QUINN WILLIAM R.S.F.
REID ADAM CAM H
REID THOMAS M H.L.I.
REID WILLIAM R.S.
RETSON THOMAS B A.S.C.
RILEY WILLIAM R.E.
RITCHIE ALEX CAM H
ROBERTSON ALEX R.S.
SEMPLE THOMAS A.S.C.
SHAKEVITCH ANDREW R.S.F.
SIMPSON JAMES R.S.F.
SIMPSON WILLIAM R.S.F.
SMITH ANDREW A&SH
SMITH PETER MC CAM H
STEVENSON WILLIAM R.S.F.
STEWART JAMES R.I.F.
STREET ARTHUR R.S.F.
THOMSON JOHN CAM H
TOMLINSON GEORGE A.I.F.
TURNER ANDREW R.S.F.
WALKER ALEX R.S.F.
WALKER HUGH ROY FUS
WALKER WILLIAM B LON SC
WARD MICHAEL R.S.F.
WARK JAMES A&SH
WATERS MICHAEL R.S.F.
WATT ROBERT USAF
WATT WILLIAM USAF
WEIR FRANK RSF
WHITELAW CHARLES M.G.C.
WILLIS DAVID R.S.F.
WILLIS WILLIAM CAM H
WRIGHT JAMES CLARK SCOTS G

WW2

ANDERSON, Robert
BANNON , Patrick
BAXTER , David W
BEATTIE , James
BOYD , Alexander
BRECKENRIDGE, Robert W K
BRODIE , Robert
BURNS , Gavin R
CALDERWOOD, Adam
CAMPBELL , George B
CARDWELL, David
CARSON , Samuel
CLARKSON, Gavin
CLARKSON, William B
CONNELLY , John
COWAN , David
CRAIG , James A
CRAIG , Robert
CURLET , William
DAVIDSON, William J
DICKIE , John
FYFE , John
GALT , William
GLASGOW , George
GORDON , William M
GRAHAM , James R
GRAY , Gordon S
HAMILTON , William P
HILL , James A P
KENNEDY , David
MCCLURE , Andrew
MCFADYEN , William
MCKEEMAN , HM
MCKIM , Daniel
MCKIM , William
MCLAREN , James
MALCOLM , James
MARSHALL , Janet W ,W.A.A.F
MARTIN , James ,Cameronians
MARTIN , Robert
MILLER , Andrew
MILLER , Thomas W
MORRISON, James
NELSON , Adam J C
PARK , Arthur H
SHAW , Thomas S H
SMITH , Ernest A J
STRAIN , Andrew W
THOMSON , Samuel
TOD , William
TURNBULL , Allan
WALKER , Andrew
WALLACE , Neil


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The minister in Kilbirnie should be posting each names regiment which I will add when I get them.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps the McQueen on the memorial is probably a relative of Gordon McQueen ex Man U. Scotland and sky sports bloke as Gordon was born in the town.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a very very sad story.
The following were brothers from Kilibirnie all killed

MOCHRIE ANDREW S.R.
MOCHRIE JAMES G.H
MOCHRIE MATTHEW S.R.
MOCHRIE ROBERT R.S.F.

Although James, Matthew and Robert were in diffferent regiments
they all died on the same day.
29/05/1915.
I would be delighted if a pal could help me research this further.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name: MOCHRIE, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Gordon Highlanders
Unit Text: "E" Coy. 2nd Bn.
Age: 28
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: 10303
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Margaret Mochrie, of 9, Glasgow St., Kilbirnie, Ayrshire; husband of Louise Rieper (formerly Mochrie), of Ward St., Raetihi, New Zealand. His brothers, Andrew, Robert and Matthew also gave their lives.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 115 to 119.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: MOCHRIE, MATTHEW
Initials: M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: 16387
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Margaret Mochrie, of 9, Glasgow St., Kilbirnie, Ayrshire. His brothers, Robert, James and Andrew also gave their lives.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 57 to 59.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: MOCHRIE, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 25/09/1915
Service No: 14859
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Margaret Mochrie, of 9, Glasgow Street, Kilbirnie, Ayrshire. His brothers, James, Andrew and Matthew also gave their lives.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 46 to 49.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

Name: MOCHRIE, ANDREW
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 38
Date of Death: 09/06/1917
Service No: 16386
Additional information: Son of Andrew and Margaret Mochrie, of 9, Glasgow St., Kilbirnie, Ayrshire. His brothers, Robert, Matthew and James also gave their lives.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 6.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL

Kevin,
Thanks for bringing this to the forums attention. Indeed an extraordinary loss and three brothers on the same day Sad . This indeed requires some extra research for posting here.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I found the first one - I searched for Abbott J on SNWM http://www.snwm.org/website/frames.html and this gave me his regimental number, I then looked for all the Abbotts on CWGC, sorted by number (click on head of column) and scrolled down until I found him.

Name: ABBOTT
Initials: T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Date of Death: 08/04/1916
Service No: 11945
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. B. 29.
Cemetery: LONDON RIFLE BRIGADE CEMETERY

This technique works for a few but remember to check for common miss-spellings (I checked for Abot, Abbot and Abott).
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: deleted Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin,
Here's a start for you.
These men were born in Kilbirnie: their regimental numbers should make it easier for you to find the specific individuals on the CWGC site.





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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KevinStoke wrote:
Are you sure this is the right chap as it has him as T Abbott and the bloke I am after is James

Kevin,
It looks like another scanning error listed by the CWGC.

The number given by Spoons relates to a James Abbott, born Greenock, enlisted Ayr, lived Kilbirnie.

Keep a note of all the scanning errors you find as you trawl through the CWGC website and then let them know.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham Marshall:
http://data4.collectionscanada.ca/netacgi/nph-brs?s1=marshall&s2=graham&s3=&Sect4=AND&l=20&Sect1=IMAGE&Sect2=THESOFF&Sect5=CEF6PEN&Sect6=HITOFF&d=CEF6&p=1&u=http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.html&r=1&f=G


Hugh Brodie:
http://data4.collectionscanada.ca/netacgi/nph-brs?s1=brodie&s2=hugh&s3=&Sect4=AND&l=20&Sect1=IMAGE&Sect2=THESOFF&Sect5=CEF6PEN&Sect6=HITOFF&d=CEF6&p=1&u=http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.html&r=1&f=G
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that I would check a few more at random just out of curiosity. So in no particular order.............

From SNWM - but I cannot find him on CWGC
Surname McKEEMAN
Firstname Robert
Service Number L/12120
Date Death 27/05/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Port Glasgow
Other 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank Sgt
Theatre of death F.& F.

Name: BARCLAY, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Third Engineer
Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
Unit Text: S.S. "Itonus" (Glasgow)
Age: 28
Date of Death: 20/12/1916
Additional information: Son of Robert Barclay, of Kirkland Terrace, Glengarnock, Ayrshire. Born at Dalry, Kirkcudbrightshire.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL

Found this one via SNWM
Name: HOOD, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sapper
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 170th Tunnelling Coy.
Date of Death: 18/03/1916
Service No: 147646
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 4 and 5.
Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

and the SNWM entry
Surname HOOD
Firstname James
Service Number 12398
Date Death 18/03/1916
Decoration
Place of birth Hurlford Ayrshire
Other latterly 147646 170th Tunn. Coy., R.E.
SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
Rank Spr
Theatre of death F.& F.

from Old Cumnock Ayrshire according to SNWM
Name: BRANNAN, JAMES
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: 9th Field Coy.
Date of Death: 04/05/1915
Service No: 25312
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: V. C. 34.
Cemetery: SANCTUARY WOOD CEMETERY

Retson is this man (from SNWM) but no sign on CWGC
Surname RETSON
Firstname T B
Service Number 33278
Date Death 26/11/1917
Decoration
Place of birth Kilmarnock
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death France.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoons wrote:


From SNWM - but I cannot find him on CWGC
Surname McKEEMAN
Firstname Robert
Service Number L/12120
Date Death 27/05/1918
Decoration
Place of birth Port Glasgow
Other 2nd Bn.
SNWM roll SCOTTISH CASUALTIES EXTRACTED FROM ENGLISH REGIMENTS
Rank Sgt
Theatre of death F.& F.



Spoons

I searched the CWGC database for R. McKEE and I found him. McKEEMAN didn't turn up anything though - very strange!

Name: McKEEMAN, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Serjeant
Regiment/Service: Middlesex Regiment
Unit Text: 2nd Bn.
Date of Death: 27/05/1918
Service No: L/12120
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: SOISSONS MEMORIAL

spoons wrote:


Retson is this man (from SNWM) but no sign on CWGC
Surname RETSON
Firstname T B
Service Number 33278
Date Death 26/11/1917
Decoration
Place of birth Kilmarnock
Other 1st Bn.
SNWM roll THE CAMERONIANS (SCOTTISH RIFLES)
Rank Pte
Theatre of death France.


Spoons

For some reason a search on T. RETS worked where RETSON didn't. I wonder if there is a wee bug in the CWGC database?

Name: RETSON, THOMAS BATEMAN
Initials: T B
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 26/11/1917
Service No: 33278
Additional information: Son of Mary McManus Retson, of The Manse, Fenwick, Kilmarnock, and the late George Retson.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 68 to 70 and 162 and 162A.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks to me like a problem with the database index. Anyone got a contact they can report it to?
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DerekR wrote:



Derek

How did you get this image onto photobucket? I noticed you doing something similar for the CWGC database as well.

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